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Post 2,236 made on Sunday June 14, 2009 at 01:42
Bruce H.Campbell
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Lost Erie PA, still getting Cleveland.....
ION came back early in the evening......below 45% prior to 9PM
climbed to 81-87%ss around 11:00PM
As of this posting each of its subchannels are coming in at around
53-64%ss on the indicator in my applications' control panel.
Post 2,237 made on Sunday June 14, 2009 at 03:39
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On June 13, 2009 at 17:26, Bruce H.Campbell said...
More funkiness...worth a separate post
now I'm gettin, From Cleveland Ohio
WKYC-HD NBC and it's weather radar sub WXPLUS

DT-17 formerly ch3! Weird Man!

something like this happened to me last weekend.
at the cottage on lake huron, which i grab detroit and flint locals,
I decided to spin the rotor around and grabbed CBC and a psip
of CHCH. overly good conditions though.
my detroit locals were booming in at nearly 100% signal on my tuner
where they've been more likely to be around 50-60%

but on the analog tuner, oh boy!
i tried to watch the news from kitchener on 13. no go.
antenna pointed almost due east, it's getting clobbered by
a station from toledo ohio which is fairly south from that
location. man, to bad it isn't digital.

all i can say, is...
SKIP happens! :)
Gimmy my HDTV and no one gets hurt!
Post 2,238 made on Sunday June 14, 2009 at 09:00
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SKIP is a term used to describe bending (or bouncing) of radio or TV signals in the ionoshpere... for TV usually layer E. But it happens only to HF and the lowest VHF channels, like 2 or 3. Above that the energy of the RF is too high to be "bent" back down to earth and passes off into space.

DUCTING or TEMPERATURE INVERSION is the physical phenomenon that brings us over the horizon TV signals. Warm days, then COOL and cloudless nights. This explanation itself is a generalization.
rfdude
Post 2,239 made on Sunday June 14, 2009 at 09:17
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I'm pleased after the June 12th HDTV rearrangements. I had to reset and reprogram my Sony TV's, but am quite pleased with the result. I live north of Toronto where one southerly antenna azimuth at Buffalo provides Toronto and Hamilton stations as well. I'm 160kms to the farthest Buffalo transmitters. WNYO-DT was previously sporadic, but now appears solid. The new ION programs, and subs on WGRZ are super. My kids like watching the A-team!

Without a preamp, splitting 2-ways (3.5db) for a second TV, I'd usually lose some of the weakest DT stations (49 WYNO-DT) that were marginal at 17 dB SNR. Now I added a tower top preamp on Saturday that allows me to split the TV antenna three ways down below in the house. The preamp into only one TV causes overload and loss of some DT channels. But the four way splitter attenuates things enough for the TV AGC to deal with near/far signals.

Seems the preamp's 3dB NF isn't an issue as I don't seem to be missing anything from Buffalo. FM Trap is ON. My antenna is a Deep fringe VHF/UHF/FM combo.
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Post 2,240 made on Sunday June 14, 2009 at 13:32
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Daniel, great job updating the hdtv channel listings for the Toronto and Buffalo area. One comment, though, shouldn't WPXI sub-channels be 51.x instead of 23.x? All other sub-channels are listed on the basis of the virtual channel.

On the transition, I am now getting WNYO solidly since transition day, for the first time as a result of their move to physical channel 49. I was never able to get them when they were on 34. Also WPXJ is booming in downton TO, though can drift away on ocasion.
Post 2,241 made on Sunday June 14, 2009 at 23:51
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Well, I still get the Cleveland transmitter intermittently, ditto for Erie, PA and the irony is they come in,for me, more often that CFTO-DT does but WPXJ [ION] bugs me, so my question of the day is:

Is WPXJ a family run business or one man op? I couldn't get it all day, so since I didn't want to watch the Fox reruns, other than the Simpsons, I put the one setup on ION at 20:33 ....blank screen..no signal.....then bam! right at 21:00/9:00PM, M*A*S*H*
comes on..so that's why I'm wondering if WPXJ is a part-time station or they are having growing pains or if an overly strong signal might be overwhelming my tuners until nightfall? As for Sun morn, I had qubo coming in the morn but then lost it and don't know what time because I dozed off and didn't bother reaching for the remote even because that set is set for playing WNLO at nine AM.

Can't find a website for WPXJ ....just ION.....anyone been in touch with them,even for an automated answer?

As of this edit[01:15], all I can find is info on the network, not the individual transmitter.

As of this edit[16:25] when the sun peaked over the factory at around 5:30am, I lost ION.

Last edited by Bruce H.Campbell on June 15, 2009 16:26.
OP | Post 2,242 made on Monday June 15, 2009 at 01:16
Daniel Tonks
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WPXJ is owned and operated by ION.
Post 2,243 made on Monday June 15, 2009 at 19:00
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I can't figure out how you guys in Stouffville and Stoney Creek can get WPXJ. Meanwhile I'm in St. Catharines, and I can't!

I'm adding channel 23 for WPXJ--right?


WNYO definitely moved because their signal on my 4228 was around 70-80%, now it's only at 65%; and that thing is 35 feet in the air. The rotary antenna is another 5 feet above it and even turning the antenna, I still can't get WPXJ at all.

For me WNYO seems to be more easterly than before. WUTV and WNYO seem to come in strongest in the same direction.
OP | Post 2,244 made on Monday June 15, 2009 at 20:13
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From St Catharines, WNYO is sort of directly through WUTV and the other Grand Island transmitters. So really your aiming probably shouldn't have changed much (although this does depend exactly where you are). WPXJ would actually be a bit more towards the north than WNYO.
Post 2,245 made on Monday June 15, 2009 at 23:33
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On June 15, 2009 at 19:00, keaster2000 said...
WNYO definitely moved because their signal on my 4228 was around 70-80%, now it's only at 65%; and that thing is 35 feet in the air.* The rotary antenna is another 5 feet above it and even turning the antenna, I still can't get WPXJ at all.

WNLO.....I had to delete it first, then use the add function of my two setups to re-enter WNLO for 32 then
WPXJ at 23, then save file.

*Ditto for WNYO here,as I think I previously said but I see as far as WPXJ is concerned that I'm not the only one.
However it does come in after dark, starting at 19%,building up to 81-87% between 11PM and about one AM,
then dropping off until sunrise when it is lost.

Keast........try it at night and let us know.

Last edited by Bruce H.Campbell on June 16, 2009 00:07.
Post 2,246 made on Tuesday June 16, 2009 at 10:26
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Stouffville is a good area for OTA Reception but it also has a higher elevation than you guys closer to the lake, so that in general may make a difference. WPXJ has been consistent for me since they signed on with very little signal fluctuation but I am aimed directly at them.
Post 2,247 made on Wednesday June 17, 2009 at 17:16
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Is the chart correct? Is Global really 3kw power? Sun 2.8kw? City 2.2kw? If they upped these they could have such better coverage area.
OP | Post 2,248 made on Wednesday June 17, 2009 at 18:08
Daniel Tonks
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Ah, but is that what concerns those channels...
Post 2,249 made on Wednesday June 17, 2009 at 20:48
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On June 17, 2009 at 18:08, Daniel Tonks said...
Ah, but is that what concerns those channels...

Humm.. . Sounds like there is a story behind the story. Are you at liberty to elaborate Dan?
Post 2,250 made on Thursday June 18, 2009 at 02:46
Bruce H.Campbell
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I got jinxed...no ION this night but considering the material..no big loss.
RTN on the other hand.....were they not having late night movies?
Or am i confusing THIS?
need something besides infomercials when insomnia hits......sheesh!
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