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Post 2,296 made on Thursday September 10, 2009 at 12:35
mikester
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CHCH DTV 11-1 seems to have no sound since Sept 9th. Analog still works ok.

Anybody else see this?
Post 2,297 made on Thursday September 10, 2009 at 15:14
little-infinity
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For the 5 minutes I got CHCH last night the sound seems to be okay...

I switched to the feed of my attic antenna (the one that picks up the Canadian channels better than the one from my other thread)

CHCH seems to be a-okay, at least for me :/
Post 2,298 made on Thursday September 10, 2009 at 16:19
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do you guys live in toronto? how stable is your NBC signal? mine is schitzophrenic..one hour its there the next its gone
and i really want to watch tonights NFL game
Post 2,299 made on Sunday September 13, 2009 at 17:30
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Depending on your location, antenna setup, possible high rise blockage, all Buffalo channels can be affected. South part Richmond Hill, I get the NBC signal solidly, same as with ABC but all the rest are spotty since I am blocked by the high rises along Steeles and Yonge.

The odd occassion the others pop in, even Hamilton as weather changes or signals bonce of off buildings. Best place to live along the lake shore with rotor and high gain antenna.
Post 2,300 made on Saturday September 19, 2009 at 15:09
Bill Best
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On July 15, 2009 at 15:50, TDF said...
I am at Broadview Danforth, not to far from you.
I am using 2-DB8 rooftop antennas and receive the following stations
2.1 -WGRZ-HD
2.2 -WGRZ-US
2.3 -WGRZ-RT
4.1 WIVB-HD
5.1 -CBLT-DT
7.1 -WKBW-HD
9.1 -CFTO-HD
17.1 -WNED-HD
17.2 -WNED-SD
17.3 -WNED-TH
23.1 -WNLO-HD
25.1 -CBLTF-D
29.1 -WUTV-HD
29.2 - WUTV-SD
41.1 -CIII-DT
44.1 -OMNI 2
49.1 -WNYO-HD
49.2 -WNYO-SD
51.1 -ION
51.2 -QUBO
51.3 -ION LIFE
51.4 -WORSHIP
57.1 -CITY-HD
64.1 -OMNI
66.1 -CKXT-DT

I also own 2 DB8 antennas, but I am currently using them in two different locations to different tuners. I am planning on mounting one outside on the roof after I do some renovations. Would it be that much better for me to combine 2 DB8s? I'm pretty sure I was getting all the channels with just 1 DB8 when I had it mounted outside before.

I'm located at Dufferin & College in Toronto.
OP | Post 2,301 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 23:19
Daniel Tonks
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If you do decide to combine, remember to do it with two antennas facing the EXACT SAME direction, with the exact same length of cable to the combiner. You're only going to get about 3db signal boost (minus insertion loss) with two antennas, but if you have multipath issues it can help increase directionality
Post 2,302 made on Wednesday September 23, 2009 at 11:21
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On September 22, 2009 at 23:19, Daniel Tonks said...
If you do decide to combine, remember to do it with two antennas facing the EXACT SAME direction, with the exact same length of cable to the combiner. You're only going to get about 3db signal boost (minus insertion loss) with two antennas, but if you have multipath issues it can help increase directionality

You say "only 3 dB" but keep in mind that 3 dB is double the signal strength and that potentially can help a viewer overcome a problem. However, combining two antennas is always a sticky issue. There is much that can go wrong.
-bb
Post 2,303 made on Wednesday September 23, 2009 at 15:57
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If you do decide to combine, remember to do it with two antennas facing the EXACT SAME direction,

In the St. Catharines area, I see A LOT of houses with two CM4228HD's "stacked" with one facing Toronto--ususally the top and the bottom one facing Buffalo. In a few situations, this is the set up they're replacing their big driectional antenna and rotor for.

I took the reflector, or back BBQ grill-looking part off my 4228HD and get Buffalo, Toronto and Hamilton. CIII and CKXT were the weakest through by Bell HD receiver at 64% (anything below 58 usually doesn't come in) So I added a CATV drop amplifier and it bumped the signal stregnth up to 75%.

I did consider putting two antennas up, with the splitter etc, etc, but this was less work and half the cost. My parents have the same set up.

So far so good...
Post 2,304 made on Thursday September 24, 2009 at 08:11
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True. Two antennas on the same coax cable but facing different directions will create multipath. However, if he were to use a separate cable for each antenna then he could mount them facing different directions. Otherwise, yes if they are ganged together on a single coax cable then they need to be facing exactly the same direction in order to obtain more gain over the single unit.
Post 2,305 made on Saturday September 26, 2009 at 21:20
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One of the Mississauga TV antenna retailers on Matheson is selling a 2 x 4 bay antenna that is hinged in the middle, so that one 4 bay points at Buffalo and the other at the CN Twr. That means you loose 3dB in both antenna performance and expose yourself to multipath issues. Might work for some.

Regarding 8 bay antenna's facing the SAME direction, I've seen two methods of combining the 2 x 4 bays:

The cheaper antennas use coax and a combiner. This means a 300 ohm to 75 ohm transformer at each 4 bay and the 3 dB combiner to bring them together. I suspect having two matching baluns increases the losses.

The more expensive Channel Master combines the two 4 bays at 300 ohms and uses only one 300 to 75 balun for the output. I can imagine that this is the superior method as there is less loss. Anyone have any experience comparing the above two versions?

How do the 8 bay's compare with a fringe UHF yagi/corner reflector?

Thanks in advance for your observations and opinions.

RF Dude.
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Post 2,306 made on Sunday September 27, 2009 at 07:04
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Did anybody else have to rescan Global? I went to watch golf on 41-1 and the signal was gone. I checked on the DVR and same thing. For the heck of it I did a rescan and global was there, but on 65-2 not 41-1?
Post 2,307 made on Sunday September 27, 2009 at 12:33
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Yeah, Global comes up on 65-1 and is described as DTV instead of CIII at my place. CFTO's signal seems stronger than normal too.
Post 2,308 made on Monday September 28, 2009 at 17:07
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Do you know the (real) analog channel being broadcast for GlobalHD? My media center lost the channel and I can't find it anymore. My TV finds the channel as 65-2.
Post 2,309 made on Monday September 28, 2009 at 19:26
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GlobalHD analog? I thought analog was SD only.

In any case Global Toronto's main transmitter is on UHF channel 41. Digital is actually supposed to be 65-1 remapping to 41-1.
Post 2,310 made on Monday September 28, 2009 at 19:45
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Global is now 65-2 on my set-it appears to be a stronger signal.
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