Well, I do know a bit about fixing and programing these remotes but nothing about IR. I have a TV set and DVD recorder that are from not know brands. Can someone try to modify the on/off codes for discrete ones?

The TV set:

900A 0068 0000 0001 01FE 00FF

And the DVD: DVD code was wrong THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE (EDITED POST)

900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 1EE1

For the DVD - Does "play" turn it on?

Nope.

I'm currious about how you have them but don't know the brands.

The DVD signal you posted matches the discrete On command for a Panasonic DVD using Panasonic's second DVD code set. I'm surprised that it is a power toggle for your device, rather than a discrete On.

The power toggle command in that code set is
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

The discrete off in that code set is
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

What do those do for your device?

Your TV IR signal matches the Princeton Monitor AF3.0HD in this CCF file:
[Link: remotecentral.com]
and the Unity Motion Television UHD-3200 in this CCF file:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

That Princeto CCF file has these two discrete power commands:

900A 006D 0000 0001 01FE D728

900A 006D 0000 0001 01FE FE01

If the 0068 in your learned power toggle command is actually correct (vs. a learning error) then the 006D in each of those discretes should also be 0068. That values does not vary between commands. If it seems to vary, that is a learning error. Look at a few of your other learned signals for the same TV to see what the correct value is likely to be.

Jonh nice to hear from you. I know the brands, what I meant it that they are not all around know brands, like panasonic or pioneer. They are generic brands, most likely they are from some big brand renamed to sell in other markets.

The TV set is a Jisco LCD 32inch TV. I heard it´s really a LG set can´t be shure. I´m in office yet but I have a copy of my PCf file here. You right some codes have 0068 some have 006D. Should I change all for 006D?

By the way any chance of having discrete for the inputs?



The DVD Recorder is a RJtech 2100. http://www.rjtech.net/

I got the wrong DVD code, this is the DVD on/off:

900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 1EE1

Well John the TV discrete codes did not worked as they should, they worked but still on/off on each press. Also other functions of the princeton worked out of order (performed a different command) or did not worked at all. So I guess this set uses a similar but not identical protocol, and proplably do not work w/ discrete codes.

Can you check if you has something on the DVD code?

I think so. Obviously the device doesn't care much about that error (or you would have noticed signals not working). But the documentation on IR receiver components often shows an interaction between modulation (which is controlled by that 68 or 6D), angle and distance. So getting the modulation wrong may make it less tollerant of a bad angle (from the remote to the TV's IR sensor) and/or may limit the range of the remote.


I have that in my library of IR signals as the power toggle for a Coby DVD-R1100. But I don't have any discrete codes listed for that. Most DVD devices lack discrete power codes. The Panasonic code you listed, before editing it away, was an unusual exception.

The TV set really dosen't care much for the 6D, but I correted it all so I hope it's more realibly.

Mine others two DVD recorders, pioneer and panasonic do accept the discrete codes.

Also I have one more question for you, I got the Panasonic Plasma discrete for the post below this and almost all worked fine, I do have two plasmas set from panasonic one is 42 inch and the other one is 58inch. The 42 one works fine w/ the discrete off code but do not repond at all to the ON discrete code, all input dicrete codes also work.

The ON discrete does not work:

0000 0071 0000 0032 0080 003F 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010
0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010
0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010
0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030
0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0A98


But the OFF does:

0000 0071 0000 0032 0080 003F 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010
0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010
0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030
0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030
0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0A98

Those are the usual Pansonic discrete power codes. I don't have any knowledge about which specific models understand which signals.

Ok John thanks a lot for your help.

Panasonic's, and Toshiba models that are the same thing, sometimes require 3 consecutive discrete ON commands in a row, and usually with no delay between them. Don't know why, just found that tip a long time ago in the TSU1000 days. Some of the newer Panasonics, like the 600u model, also require 3 commands. Have one that's gotten worse over time, about 6 years old now, and requires 10 ON commands to get going. Have tried relearning, played with delays, other discretes, etc, go figure. But it works everytime.
Dan
Hope that helps

A TSU1000 may be able to send a command multiple times in a row from a macro with little enough delay to look like a long duration command to the IR receiver. But a newer Pronto can't.

If you ask for no delay, you still get too much delay. If you ask for some delay, you get even more.

Some newer Prontos let you specify a duration for a signal used in a macro. First you should find out whether duration is the issue.

1) Define a button in which the ONLY item in its action list is the discrete signal you want to test. (I know a discrete is pretty useless as the only action on a button, but it is usefult to TEST it that way).

2) Try a very long press of that button. If it is programmed correctly, the signal will be sent as long as you press the button.

3) If that doesn't work, your model really doesn't understand that discrete code.

4) If it does work, but the same signal in a macro doesn't work (quite common) then you can start experimenting with solutions for that duration problem.

You also can experiment with manual timing on that test button to see how much duration you need.

For some signals, on some models of remote, the solution to a duration problem is send the signal multiple times. Panasonic is a protocol in which that tends to work, but Pronto NG's add so much delay, that with a Pronto NG, that almost never works.

johnsfine
Tried the long press trick, didn't work, on ANY of the Pronto's. I'ved used it most often on 6000's and 7000 series. You can also use a small delay of up to .3 and it will still turn on. Fewer than 3 ON commands and it won't turn on. OFF commands always work with one shot. I'm not a hex guru, but understand the principal. Duration of the ON command makes no difference on an NG remote. FWIW, this is the command I've used for years, came from an old discrete ccf posted here. Works great.

0000 0071 0000 0032 0080 003F 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0AAB

If you can make a better one out of it, I'll be glad to test it out. This works on almost every Panasonic and Toshiba plasma I've run across, including my 6 year old model, so it would help out many others here.
Thanks
Dan

Dan,

Will try that tonight an get back w/ the result. I hope it works since my set is newer than yours 6 year old.

I'm also having another trouble w/ panasonic discrete code set 2 for DVD recorder. It's is causing an error in the recorder. When the recorder i rec something in the HD and a discrete is sent the recorder jams.