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CHAD screen not clearly readable
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Post 1 made on Saturday June 14, 2003 at 12:33
dcard2000
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I just got my Onkyo CHAD. It seems that the screen is not very readable as seen on the advertisement picture. Even though I have a screen protector on (the one that is usually used on palm pilot), it shouldn't be this bad. Or should it?

I tried to adjust the contrast, but still, it's not very good. However, with the back light, it is much better.
Post 2 made on Saturday June 14, 2003 at 13:20
bomberjim
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Back before I upgraded to a color model, I was always a bit disappointed in the display of my TS 1000. The greenish screen is just not very clear IMHO. Real bad, unless in low light. Although I've never seen a Chad, I suspect that it's the same. It's pretty near impossible to select a contrast setting that displays all four shades. Either the dark grey looks black, or the light grey looks white. Also, as you're using it, the unit "warms up" and the contrast setting will drift.

I also tried the screen protectors, but it just made readability worse as far as I was concerned.

Despite all this, it's still a great remote, and you won't find anything better than a Pronto at it's price point. Again, just MHO.

Jim L
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Post 3 made on Saturday June 14, 2003 at 13:41
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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dcard,
you have just described what irritates me about EVERY ad illustration I have ever seen for an LCD remote. This started with the Lexicon, and includes the Pronto, Marantz, even Crestron panels. LCD TV ads would also be as misleading, except there are so many pixels that the camera can back up (or that the photograph substituted for the LCD image looks close enough to the real thing).

I decided early on that the TS1000 was a three-color device: black, white and confusing. I decided not to use "confusing."

None of my clients had problems with two-color artwork; most of them had problems, or the remote just did not look right, if I tried to use the intermediate shades of gray.

I have only found the TS2000 to be a little better.
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Post 4 made on Saturday June 14, 2003 at 16:25
Anthony
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I have always thought of it as three color black white and gray. I only use one of the grays , that way you can put that gray to be 50% with the contrast. I think the problem is that the Pronto uses 4 grays at 0%, 33%, 66%, 100% but since the screen is naturally gray at let's say equivalent to around 25% there is not enough contrast to show all 4
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OP | Post 5 made on Saturday June 14, 2003 at 17:51
dcard2000
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Thanks for the comments. I wasn't sure whether my unit of defective, since it's the first one I have seen physically. Is there any way to configure the remote such that it only uses 2 colors without shading? Thanks.
Post 6 made on Saturday June 14, 2003 at 18:58
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Not really. You are limited to the shades in the graphics you use. If you use the default graphics in the Pronto, or find others via the files section of this site, you will have to use the shading in those graphics.

You can create your own, or limit yourself to gallery items that are black and white. I have not bothered to create any graphics yet and have been programming these for about four years now. I just go for the high contrast items in the galleries, or create buttons that are simply white letters in black rectangles, which you can do in PE.
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Post 7 made on Saturday June 14, 2003 at 19:15
Daniel Tonks
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I try to be more realistic with the photographs on this site (at least they are actual photographed screens, rather than the screenshot "paste-ins" on most ads).


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