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Denon DVD/Bluray Prontoscript Library (project abandoned)
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OP | Post 76 made on Tuesday March 2, 2010 at 04:02
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On March 1, 2010 at 23:05, leeladisky said...
900ms for polling. I wish there was some way to disable the error altogether.... I never had the error before the PS Library version(s), which I know had limited error handling. Can we get an option to disable the error?

How high is the general delay, not the poll delay.
Post 77 made on Tuesday March 2, 2010 at 22:24
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On March 2, 2010 at 04:02, sWORDs said...
How high is the general delay, not the poll delay.

General delay = 200
OP | Post 78 made on Wednesday March 3, 2010 at 09:55
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On March 2, 2010 at 22:24, leeladisky said...
General delay = 200

Try General delay = 300
Poll delay = 680
Post 79 made on Saturday March 6, 2010 at 01:28
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Using v1.41 IP control with my 4010UDCI watching a blu-ray disk. Testing related functions. Most buttons worked. The following don't appear to work:
cursor right, cursor down, eject, info button (not sure if code assigned), the power button will turn off the unit, but will not power it on.

No error messages.
Post 80 made on Saturday March 6, 2010 at 08:53
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Regarding not power on, you need to turn off power save in the player menu.
Post 81 made on Saturday March 6, 2010 at 20:53
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Good catch. With power save off, power on now works. How about the othe functions?

Thanks.
OP | Post 82 made on Sunday March 7, 2010 at 03:57
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cursor right, cursor down, eject are unexplainable, the code path is the same as rs232. So if cursor up works, cursor down should to. Maybe a bug in the player firmware.
Post 83 made on Sunday March 7, 2010 at 23:23
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On March 3, 2010 at 09:55, sWORDs said...
Try General delay = 300
Poll delay = 680

OK -this only improved marginally... I tried GD = 400 and PD = 600. Marginal improvement again... still, the error only appears when I've sent a command to the player or to another device like my lights or Projector....

Lee
OP | Post 84 made on Monday March 8, 2010 at 12:02
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On March 7, 2010 at 23:23, leeladisky said...
OK -this only improved marginally... I tried GD = 400 and PD = 600. Marginal improvement again... still, the error only appears when I've sent a command to the player or to another device like my lights or Projector....

Lee

Again this leeds me to believe that you're not getting the error when using the xcf alone, only when integrating it with other components. Maybe the extender helper object that will be in my next version will be a solution, but you'll need the source of the other components to be able to use it. Another solution might be the processor that will be available in q4. For now there is not much more I can do because I've got no idea what's going on. I can use 3 remotes at the same time without an error to 3 devices on the same extender by using the methods the Denonplayer does. Also I haven't had anyone else complain about any communication error with 1.41.

Could you make a picture of the error and mail it? Maybe I can build a debug version to atleast check what happened before the error. Disabling the error would be foolish, it needs to be fixed. Also delays of 400 and 600 are way to high to be able to communicate normally, and even worse when also using other devices at the same time.
Post 85 made on Tuesday March 9, 2010 at 18:36
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On March 8, 2010 at 12:02, sWORDs said...
Again this leeds me to believe that you're not getting the error when using the xcf alone, only when integrating it with other components. Maybe the extender helper object that will be in my next version will be a solution, but you'll need the source of the other components to be able to use it. Another solution might be the processor that will be available in q4. For now there is not much more I can do because I've got no idea what's going on. I can use 3 remotes at the same time without an error to 3 devices on the same extender by using the methods the Denonplayer does. Also I haven't had anyone else complain about any communication error with 1.41.

Could you make a picture of the error and mail it? Maybe I can build a debug version to atleast check what happened before the error. Disabling the error would be foolish, it needs to be fixed. Also delays of 400 and 600 are way to high to be able to communicate normally, and even worse when also using other devices at the same time.

The part that bothers me is that this only started to happen when we converted the code to a library versus the previous script versions. On the previous script versions, there was no error reported, no delays and all the same external devices were integrated. Essentially, it's exactly the same on my end with the exception of conversion to the library. As for the error, it just says "Communication timeout...."
Post 86 made on Tuesday March 9, 2010 at 19:03
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On March 9, 2010 at 18:36, leeladisky said...
The part that bothers me is that this only started to happen when we converted the code to a library versus the previous script versions.

That's easily tested - just change it back to a standard script (should take less than a minute).
Post 87 made on Tuesday March 9, 2010 at 23:18
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On March 9, 2010 at 19:03, Guy Palmer said...
That's easily tested - just change it back to a standard script (should take less than a minute).

Like I said, it works fine... I just loaded the older config.

Lee
Post 88 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 02:18
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Loading the older config doesn't help distinguish between "the problem is caused by it being a library" and "the problem is caused by something else that was changed", which is why I was suggesting converting the current config.

I don't see why "being a library" would be a problem - my understanding is that libraries and standard scripts are just slightly different ways of assigning the same code to an activity.
OP | Post 89 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 15:06
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Lee,

the older version you're refering to will not give the error because it doesn't do any error handling. It also won't do a lot of things the current version will. Moving to a library has nothing to do with the problem. Disabling the error box also will not solve the error it will only not show it. It's much better to fix the error then to work arround it. However if you really would like it I'll add an option to disble errors in the next version.

But fixing the error is what we should concentrate on. Something is wrong and needs to be fixed or catched. But what I really need to know is if the error is because of your integration or not. If it is I can have a look at the conflicting module and modify it so it won't lock the extender.
Post 90 made on Thursday March 11, 2010 at 23:57
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On March 10, 2010 at 15:06, sWORDs said...
Lee,

the older version you're refering to will not give the error because it doesn't do any error handling. It also won't do a lot of things the current version will. Moving to a library has nothing to do with the problem. Disabling the error box also will not solve the error it will only not show it. It's much better to fix the error then to work arround it. However if you really would like it I'll add an option to disble errors in the next version.

But fixing the error is what we should concentrate on. Something is wrong and needs to be fixed or catched. But what I really need to know is if the error is because of your integration or not. If it is I can have a look at the conflicting module and modify it so it won't lock the extender.

I agree - I think fixing it is the best approach, but I'm concerned we're chasing ghosts... I'm not using any other modules, I'm only integrating a few other IR commands to the extender. Ironically, however, it doesn't JUST occur when I use other commands, it occurs when I use the skip command in your module, the reverse, etc., and consistantly happens during BR disk loads... I played a non BR disk in the player the other day and the problem didn't occur AT ALL, except when I ejected the disk. I think it's something in the BR player code that causes delayed or inconsistant response...
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