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980 not as smooth at my old mx-500?
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Post 1 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 14:06
Rarebird
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I used my old mx-500 to train a bunch of ir codes to my new 980. The new 980 is using a mrf350 with a ir blaster cable connected to a USB UIRT. It seems to work ok, but it is not very smooth. For instance if I press a bunch of buttons fast it does not work well. If I press a button wait a second and press another button it works fine. I can take my old mx500 and click the buttons fast and it works fine. I have tried adjusting the ir power and it does not seem to have any effect. Any ideas? Chad
OP | Post 2 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 15:54
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Well I have continued to try to fix this and see it is an issue with the MRF350 (mostly). At first I thought this was just on my HTPC controlled via Girder. Now I see this same delay on everything. I really hope their is a fix for this because I do not think I will keep the remote if this is normal. Certain functions of Sage require you to enter text via a number pad and this delay causes it to fail every time.

When I just use the IR signal it works better, but not as smooth as my mx-500. It still lags a little making it slow. When I only transmit an RF signal I get a lot more delay. I really notice this with my on screen guide or digging through on screen menu's. If I want to scroll down 30-40 shows and click the down button on the remote really fast it's not very responsive and only works every 3rd time or so. I tried turning off repeat, but that does not make an difference. If I wait 1 second between every click it works fine. When I change the setting to transmit IR only I can spam the button fast and it works better, but not as smooth as my old mx500. Is this just a limitation of the RF to IR conversion? I was really hopping that my remote would function exactly the same with only using RF. I messed with IR signal strength an it does not make any difference. I can only guess it is a delay in the MRF350. Chad

Last edited by Rarebird on March 15, 2008 17:33.
Post 3 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 17:44
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try IR FIRST with the 980, how does taht respond? If it responds as you like, then it is an RF problem, set the 350 in "sniffer" mode (set address to "0") make sure there is no rf interference (light should not light up or flicker, unless a command is sent to it) once you find a clean location, set the 350 to an address of your liking( be sure to change the programming in the programming software) If it is still there, adjust the emmitter sensitivity.
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
OP | Post 4 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 18:20
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On March 15, 2008 at 17:44, cb1 said...
try IR FIRST with the 980, how does taht respond? If
it responds as you like, then it is an RF problem, set
the 350 in "sniffer" mode (set address to "0") make sure
there is no rf interference (light should not light up
or flicker, unless a command is sent to it) once you
find a clean location, set the 350 to an address of your
liking( be sure to change the programming in the programming
software) If it is still there, adjust the emmitter sensitivity.


Thanks for the reply. I am not seeing any RF interference at all while in sniffer mode. After that I moved it to channel F and did the same for my remote software. When I use IR only it responds much better, but still not as good as my mx500. I see no difference when I change the emitter sensitivity while in RF only mode. Chad
Post 5 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 20:34
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Try turning off the IR on the remote( at least for the problem component) I have a Rotel pre amp, that the volume does not respond to RF, works great for IR< some brands just dont talk to each other very well
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
OP | Post 6 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 21:18
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On March 15, 2008 at 20:34, cb1 said...
Try turning off the IR on the remote( at least for the
problem component) I have a Rotel pre amp, that the
volume does not respond to RF, works great for IR< some
brands just dont talk to each other very well

I might have found a solution! I tried using some other pre-programed codes with the USB-UIRT instead of using the "learn" feature of the 980. I am now using the codes for a Sony SAT-W60 and having much better luck. I think the 980 was having a hard time with learning the codes from my mx-500. It could also be that I am not doing the correct steps when learning codes with this remote, but I think I am.

I found this out because Girder was showing me some strange codes from my 980 when I press the remote buttons quickly. This is kind of strange because I can press the buttons on my mx500 fast and Girder shows the correct codes every time. I then used an old learning Radio Shack remote and it learns the codes off my mx 500 fine. For some reason the 980 has a hard time learning these codes. I really have no idea where I got the remote codes from, but I have been using them for years with my HTPC. I still need to do a little testing, but once I started to use the SAT-W60 codes it started to work much smoother. I did have to change the repeat from 3 to 1, but I tried that before with the mx500 codes and still have issues. Anyway I think I am on to something. I need to get this working soon before the wife freaks out! Chad
Post 7 made on Saturday March 15, 2008 at 22:24
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Yeah if you had a "dirty" code, that would do the problem. Maybe you can help me with y proble about press and hol macro"s or "if" statements. i possted a question a few min ago
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
OP | Post 8 made on Sunday March 16, 2008 at 00:23
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On March 15, 2008 at 22:24, cb1 said...
Yeah if you had a "dirty" code, that would do the problem.
Maybe you can help me with y proble about press and
hol macro"s or "if" statements. i possted a question
a few min ago

I would if I knew the answer. I have not had a need to learn that yet....

Chad


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