Hi,

I can't resist...

The commercial implications of consumer items featured in movies is enormous. Ericson phones and Omega watches in James Bond movies (instead of NOKIA phones and Blancpain watches), Stars that drink Coke instead of Pepsi - this is advertisement.

Chances are, if a MAC computer is featured in a film, it is because Apple PAID the producers to put it in their movie. I really can't believe film producers would be making any statement about technical merit of differing computer platforms - rather, just which manufacturer would pay the most for advertising time in the movie.
Clay W.

I totally agree with you...

But I can't help wonder who "paid" them to have the girl in Jurassic Park to say "I know this, this is Unix".

okay, i'll settle this once and for all. Windows is in my opinion the finest os ever created. now will all you knuckleheads go get a life. thank you

Some of the follow ups surprised me. I personally didn't react emotionally -- I see everything as a practical consequence of choice. In fact, I went out of my way to point out that that the question about whether having a MAC version was valid. I also pointed out that I have been there myself (i.e. ex-amiga user). It was the posts that flamed Windows in favor of the MAC that I said were inappropriate (especially here). I'm not against the MAC (as I said, I've been forced to learn many OS's), I'm against blind OS loyalty and flaming when you don't get your way. The fact that there are multiple MAC threads in this discussion group, and some of the posts are of an "us versus them, and we are better" type indicated that this was out of control.

My advice?

1. For the vendor -- get someone to fund and perform the effort, so you get the return on investiment you need (assuming you have a market interest in the MAC user base). If this is important enough to someone, then this should be possible.

2. For the end-user -- Continue to support Apple if you wish, but I'd also get a cheap windows PC to free you from the limitations of your platform.

3. Use linux instead -- it's the best OS. :-)
I've been a fan since .99pl4

Gezzzz.....this war just never seems to stop.

Ok, here is my solution. Maybe this might work for everyone. Let's let the Fed's plan and develop a completely new OS. It will combine the power of Unix/Linux, the flexibility of Windows, and the interface similarities of a Mac.

It will run as a completely interpreted OS and since it will have all of this "god-help-me overhead", it will run like a pig. The GOOD news...it'll run anything under the Sun (Dang it...I knew I left someone out!) ALL of the software you own today will run on it.

And what's all of this power gonna run on? Intel will release a new chip called the "Gotcha" and will purportedly run at 10Thz. The computer will also serve well as a microwave unit but no one will be able to work on it while it is turned on because of the radiation exposure. Everything will be considered optional except for the included Geiger counter and radiation badges. Unfortunately, all TV and radio will become unusable because of the extreme EMI and RFI. People will reportedly glow in the dark so night traffic fatalities will finally fall to near-zero levels.

The Feds can re-label the OS as the BE-OS so they can use cute jingles and sayings;

"BE all you want to BE"

"Where do you want to BE today?"

"BE Different"

"I'm a wanna-BE"

Since the Feds will design, implement and control this new OS, they will announce the release in 1999 & deliver it in 2005, it will cost you $2,500, patches and fixes will be released on a daily basis, and since the Feds own it, a newly formed BE adminstration will be formed that all of us will subsidize. Updates costs will be administered via a new payroll deduction called BE-duction and no one will ever see any benefits. Clinton will come out with a new, superhighway resolution but that's only because he's driving a new Porsche and he's out cruising for Monica-look-alikes.

Ain't technology cool?

Hope some of you got a few chuckles out of this. No, I'm not quitting my day job, but after reading all the posts here, I thought maybe a little diversion might cool a few keyboards.

Can't we all just get along? :)

Steve Jobs, or whoever you really are... Man, MS has you really snowed! Along with most people who use computers. To be honest, Windows is one of the WORST OS's out there. MS just has really great marketing to get people who don't know any better to *believe* it is good. If you've never used Solaris, BeOS, Linux, or a number of other truly FUNCTIONAL OS's, you'll never know how truly BAD Windows is.

>Chances are, if a MAC computer is featured in a film,
> it is because Apple PAID the producers to put it in their
>movie. I really can't believe film producers would be making
>any statement about technical merit of differing computer
>platforms - rather, just which manufacturer would pay the
>most for advertising time in the movie.

Totally, completely, utterly FALSE. Until VERY recently, Apple made no effort to have their computers in film. They were chosen because they were the preferred computer of an influential producer, director, or even actor. And even recently, Apple’s only contribution to the film would be the loan of a computer to the effort, and often times, Apple would be requested by the film company to buy the loaned hardware after filming. Please, if you are going to make such a specific statement, make sure it is accurate, because there is no truth to your statement at all. I admit that I can understand how you could have extrapolated such a statement because many companies DO pay to have their products on display in a film, but this isn’t the case for the Mac. It is used because it is a popular computer in the entertainment industry. They best example is the Mac that has been in every shot of Jerry Seinfeld’s apartment. The first Mac was Jerry’s personal computer that he had upgraded to a newer model.

>and to be down right honest the mac can't do in a lifetime
>half of what my 400 Mhz Pentium II can do in a heatbeat
>(not just because of speed, sometimes things just can't be
>customized or tweaked on a mac)!!!

I love this one!!! Considering a 400Mhz G3 Mac can crunch numbers, graphics, or whatever at roughly twice the speed of a 450Mhz Pentium II(BYTE's benchmarks, a decidedly PC centric publication, not mine), I can only assume that your problems with Mac’s are user related and not hardware related.

Cheers,

-Alan

I love that one too, Alan

He posted the same message on another thread.....
believin' is everything!!

And with the looks of new G3's, Apple probably can request some money back from film companies!! LOL

Have a good one......Dave

You're right. Windows sucks, but I'm still making a billion dollars a week and I can program my Pronto and you can't.

But Judge Lance Ito used a Thinkpad and nobody PAID him to do it. (they did give him a free computer with the logo turned upside down so it would look better on TV, but I don't think that counts.)

I can't believe I read this whole thread. What a waste of disk space and bandwidth.

You people have waaay too much spare time.

I believe in using the best tool for the job. PCs (example: solid modeling) excels in some areas and MACs in other (digital image manipulation).
Why all the mudslinging???
Who's faster? Who cares? It does not equate since they are as different as apples (ha ha) and ...

Just use the damn tools don't fall in love.
I must agree with the waste in space above, (though I didn't read the whole thing.)

Ok, I can't resist this...

I've used them all (all Win versions NT,95,3.1,etc, Apple - from the II to the G3s, Sun, SGI, AS400, VMS,Linux, bla bla bla...you get the picture...)

My point, they all have good and bad points. I personally like the NT platform. Why? Because I make a living at it.

My last job, Sun and Mac were my favorites. Why? I made a living at it.

These are tools people, not golden idols to pray at.

If i wanted to do publishing, and interact with the publishing world, use a Mac and Quark or PageMaker.

If I want to play games, Windows 95.

If I want to run an ISP, Sun or Linux (and maybe NT).

Get it? Tools.

...steping off the box...and into the flames most likely after taht one... :)

John

Until ProntoEdit comes out I can't be sure, but I think that if you have a PC emulator like VirtualPC or SoftWindows and a COM to Serial port adaptor than using ProntoEdit on a Mac should be as easy as on a PC.
For example I have a Palmpilot with the MacPac and a Mac with VirtualPC. I can HotSync the palmpilot on the mac desktop or on the windows desktop no problem, all from the same computer.

"Bill Gates": Hmm... "Waste of disk space"... You should be talking... Look how much wasted disk space you have around the world... AKA MS Office, MS Windows, MS this, MS that... Oh yeah... and BOB. :)

John: One correction. Games: (not Win 95)... Playstation or N64. :)