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Post 1 made on Tuesday April 7, 2009 at 09:35
vbova27
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I have a customer who wants a light switch for his backyard light (less than 600W) and a pool heater on/off switch which is at or over 1000W but not much more than tat.

I was thinking of incorporating an IR-543 into his previously installed URC RF system so he can use his remote to control the backyard and pool heater. Can anyone reccomend 2 products here that are not to expensive?

Thanks, greatly appreciated.

PS - I have done some x10 in my own home, but want to be a little more thorough here..
Post 2 made on Saturday April 11, 2009 at 11:48
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Does the Niles AC-3 switch that much AC current? If it does, you could use the X10 to trigger a low voltage that would switch it.

Be sure that you check out your liability as regards AC power and outdoor water products. For safety, though, I'd use the X10 to trigger a contactor in an approved enclosed metal box, a box like a circuit breaker box.

Hmmmm, contactor...contactors stay in the ON position when power is lost. I think a relay would be a better idea, so if house power is lost, the pool power does not come back on the instant house power is restored, but needs a definite command to come back on.
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Post 3 made on Saturday April 11, 2009 at 23:26
Jim Fouch in Southern California
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For the past ten years almost every light in my house has been controlled by X-10. When I installed the system there was not much else available that was not extremely expensive.

I have installed a coupler, repeaters, and filters, and it is fairly reliable, but I expect not sufficiently reliable that I would still be using it if I were married.

I have never been in your trade, but if I were, I think I would find a more reliable system to install for a customer.

The worst thing about it for a mission critical system is not that a load sometimes fails to respond to a switch, but that sometimes a switch will turn on a load for no reason that one can find. Last year my dinning room light came on during the night for no reason that I could find. Over the years, I have had that experience with one or two other lights.

I did not think that could happen before it happened to me as a X-10 signal is a rather long binary string of about 22 bits as I recall and one might think the probability of a false signal about as likely as guessing the combination to a bank vault, but it has happened to me and a number of other people.

In the past few years there have been a number of other power line control systems brought to market in an attempt to overcome the shortcomings of X-10. I am not too familiar with most of them except I see that the one made by Smarthome has their usual quality control problems.

I am not yet convinced that any system that does not use a dedicated hardwire is going to work first time, every time. Which is what one would wantin order to avoid service calls from less than happy customers.

For more information then I can provide, you might want to check the forums at:

[Link: cocoontech.com]

Good luck.
Cheers, Jim.


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