Hi

I have been looking at changing my current receiver for one of the following:

Denon AVR-3805
Yamaha RX-V2500
Pioneer VSX-AX2014i

Does anyone have any experience of these models and if so which would you suggest purchasing?

Thanks in advance

Mike

This message was edited by Mike Goacher on 02/01/05 04:28 ET.

Are there certain features you are interested in? Have you checked these choices and decided which has that feature or performes better?

As a Yamaha dealer I'd choose the RX-V2500. Key features include. YPAO automated setup. (The Denon does this with an additional $80 microphone that is a MUST.) (3) component inputs, video upconversion, 2 additional zones 1 has video too, full discrete ir codes, really cool reciever editor when it becomes available (soon I hope),

Does this help? Cant offer any insite on the new Pioneer. I used to install it but was over priced IMHO compared to other brands at the same price point. I would check out both the Yamaha and Denon. Be careful asking at Tweeter, they used to get a 3 times higher spiff than on Yamaha

Hi

Thanks all for your advice. Will take it all on board and check out the Yamaha and Denon. In the UK the Denon comes with the additional microphone anyway in the package so no extra cost. I have been veering towards the Yamaha because ofthe extra sound processing it offers, but it always good to get advice from people experienced in the field.

Thanx again

In my opinion, the Yamaha has waytoo many DSP modes. Most people will only use two or three modes, but Yamaha give you like 40! That's a waste of processing power to me. But like I said, in my opinion.

Matt

I had a Yamaha once. Great receiver. Never used the extra surround modes. Tried them all on occasion, never liked them compared to the real thing. But it's not like they charge more for them or like the RAM doesn't work right because it has more modes in there. Listen to them and compare useful features, that is the way to decide.

DSP modes are the marketing depratments wet dream. I dont use them.

The only cost is in Flash space - they don't use up CPU if they are not being used.

I agree. Why don't they take out the DSP modes and lower the price.

I have owned two Yamaha receivers, my latest being the DSP-A1. And I absolutely love it. But never use the DSP modes. What a waste.

Denon makes a very good receiver too. At least the reviews are good. If the Yamaha did not exist I would own a Denon.

I have the yamaha 2500. Its a pleasure to own. I've fiddled with the dsp's...maybe one day i'll set them up the way I want to co-incide with each genre of movie when I get a 400 disc dvd player. It will be easy to do with my rc5000 remote.

40 different cinemas all linked to different movies...uhm...maybe that'll get rid of the upgrade bug.....NOT :-)


and ive had very good customer support from yamaha.

[Link: yamaha.com]

Thanks for the link John.
I think I will def go ahead now with the yamaha.

once again thank you all for your support.


Mike

I wasn't implying that the Yamaha receivers would sound worse because they have too many surround modes, but after reading my original post I can see where others might think that. I was just saying that Yamaha is famous for having a gazillion surround modes that aren't really necessary.

For the record, I think the Yamaha receiver is very good; but why confuse the end user more than you have to? I mean, some of their remotes are bad enough, do they have to throw in useless features as well :) I'm just having fun here, nobody have kittens over this.

We use the Pioneer VSX1014 alot and found it to be a great receiver at the price point, but have not worked with the VSX2014. Anything over $1000 we go directly to Rotel.

Matt

Dude, what are you talking about. I'm sure you don't recommend any products except the one's that pay you nothing. Unfortunately, in the business world, some people have to make money, and they can't be as noble and chivalrous as you. Next time you make up some crap about a company or the motives of its saleperson's recommendations, have an idea what you are talking about.

Did I strike a nerve? I make my money on profit/markup - not spiffs as a salesperson. Big difference imho