I wasn't implying that the Yamaha receivers would sound worse because they have too many surround modes, but after reading my original post I can see where others might think that. I was just saying that Yamaha is famous for having a gazillion surround modes that aren't really necessary.

For the record, I think the Yamaha receiver is very good; but why confuse the end user more than you have to? I mean, some of their remotes are bad enough, do they have to throw in useless features as well :) I'm just having fun here, nobody have kittens over this.

We use the Pioneer VSX1014 alot and found it to be a great receiver at the price point, but have not worked with the VSX2014. Anything over $1000 we go directly to Rotel.

Matt