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RGB signal quality?
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Post 16 made on Friday April 19, 2002 at 11:04
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On 04/19/02 05:01.23, Bruce Burson said...

No, unfortunately the monitor is too old (1997)
for progressive scan.

Ah, I was wonder how old it was - with only two scarts. These days most UK (European?) mid/upper market sets come with a minimum of three - with at least one them being reserved for RGB... eg Don't think you'll want to be buying a new TV for the sake of a "tuppenny/hapenny" widget though.


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And in the realms of "you learn something new everyday."

Re: the aforelinked TV... Some months ago I had a conversation, with a guy in the middle east, who'd bought a European spec. 36FS70 and a US spec. 725 DVD player. He couldn't get S-video from the rear scarts, only from the front connection. Now I know why.
OP | Post 17 made on Saturday April 20, 2002 at 05:09
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It's actually a Pioneer multi-system 50" RPTV with one RGB/S-Video/composite switchable SCART (AV1), one S-Video/composite switchable SCART (AV2) "plus" three additional 4-pin S-Video/composite RCA switchable inputs (AV3, AV4 & AV Front).

Back in the days when I was feeding the source video signals directly into the monitor, I needed AV1&2 because I had four sources (DVD mega-changer, Wife's Karaoke/DVD/VCD box, HTPC, and VCR). So I bought the two widgets.

Even though all the signals are currently coming to the monitor on a single cable, since I haven't figured out the discrete codes yet :) I still am using one of the widgets to send all the signals to AV1.

Then I got confused about the RGB capabilities of the SCART socket, the converter boxes, etc., so I started this thread (grin).
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Post 18 made on Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:19
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No wonder the SCART is so %^$%#£@ awful.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not adverse to the idea of a multi-pin, multi-functional connector (in fact I rather like the idea), yet I've often wondered... why the SCART? The pins are rather flimsy, there isn't enough of them, there's no locking mechanism, being just a few of my criticisms.

Well, the answer, quite simply, is that it's French.

SCART (Syndicat des Constructeurs d'Appareils Radio Recepteurs et Televisieurs), PERITEL or EURO-CONNECTOR was devised, by the French, as a means of protecting their domestic television manufacturing industry.

Prior to it's inception, France had legislation preventing the import of television sets unless, that is, they were capable of receiving their old 819 line monochrome system. The demise of the system, however, meant some alternative protectionist measure was required, hence the SCART. So in 1980, after it's development, the legislation was reformulated to stipulate that all televisions sold in France must have a SCART socket.

Alas though, as a deterrent I would rather tend to think that it was something of a failure - in more ways than one.
A). For "foreign" manufacturers, it was an easy (and relatively low cost) item to add.
B). They didn't have to go to the expense of developing their own standard.
C). It stopped the development of an alternative/better standard.

As for S-Video. Not surprisingly it wasn't included in the original specification and by the time it was considered the connector, having already become fully loaded, meant the means to implement it would only come at the expense of something else. That's the reason why most SCART sockets are either RGB or S-Video and not both (pin 15 is either RGB "Red In" or S-Video "Chrominance").

Just think of how much simpler life would have been had the French considered something like a larger/revised version of the 25 pin 'D'. Ho hum, he sighed (with a slight Gallic shrug).
OP | Post 19 made on Monday April 22, 2002 at 01:19
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:) Ah, things become clearer... I live about 15 minutes drive from the French border and travel there all the time for shopping and tourism. But even after almost five years in the area, I must admit that I often do not understand their ways of doing things. Definitely an "independent" culture, oui?
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Post 20 made on Monday April 22, 2002 at 04:27
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Oh yes!
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