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Post 1 made on Monday June 30, 2003 at 15:01
nahtanoj
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I want to be able to control my projector, receiver, DVD player and DISH network box (and possible an HD decoder box for OTA HD)with one remote. I don't think I'll use Macros, bc I can't think of any other than power on, and my projector will soon be hanging from the ceiling and may not respond when I point it at my rack which will be on the front wall. I was hoping there was something that had all the codes pre-programmed or in a book or that I could put the remotes head to head for programming. Here are my components:

Sharp XV-Z9000 DLP projector (this may be the hard one)Yamaha 5280 A/V receiver
Yamaha DVD 6490 (same as 940)
DISH network box (I forgot which one, but the one I use with my home theater will either be the current or new HDTV DISH box.
I may add a Samsung OTA HD decoder also.

I read about the RS-2116, but am intimidated by the programming. I have an old SONY 2000? touch screen and I don't like the touch screen. It also seems fairly involved to program it, and my wife doesn't like it either. Is there anything that's fairly easy and inexpensive, and will handle those components without a ton of programming work if I don't care about macros? Please help!

BTW: I don't want a touch screen or need something as advanced as a pronto. And I'm looking for something easy for my wife. I've read that some people have issues getting a remote to operate their projector bc the projectors are still commonly made by the commercial divisions of the manufactures and not necessarily designed with universal remote cabability in mind. Thanks!
Post 2 made on Monday June 30, 2003 at 15:30
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What is it about the 15-2116 programming that intimidates you? I don't think you're going to have any luck finding a remote with simpler programming I'm afraid.

Rob
http://www.hifi-remote.com
Rob.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
OP | Post 3 made on Monday June 30, 2003 at 16:19
nahtanoj
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Thanks for your reply. I read that you can hook up the remote to the Internet to download new codes (is there more) via a JP1 cable. I also read that at least one version required soldering. While I was once a programmer (okay, in high school in the 1980s) I have 2 kids and almost no time to play now. I'd like to find out if all my components are either pre-programmed, I can get the codes from the instruction book or that the remote has a head to head learning feature AND that I can use at least all of the basic commands of my components. For example, everything on the DVD player, power, volume, switch components on the receiver and power on the projector. I'd love it if I could do more advanced features without too much work, but that would be a bonus. I don't know where the web site people are referring to for the RS-2116 (or JP1) is, but I saw screen shots on AVS forum, and it looked fairly advaced, with hex codes, etc. I was hoping that remote (or another) could handle what I want without much programming. Should the RS-2116 do that already? Do you happen to know the site address for that remote and can you please tell me what it's for? I really appreciate the advice. I'm already in a little over my head with the projector and new set-up. My wife is now fine with it, but I need to make things fairly easy for her so she stays fine! Thanks.
Post 4 made on Monday June 30, 2003 at 17:51
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Just because a remote is capable of advanced programming, doesn't mean you have to utilize it, it's certainly not a reason to avoid the remote.

To put it another way, suppose you're looking for a new car and you have no intention of driving over the 55 MPH speed limit. Would you avoid any cars *capable* of exceeding the speed limit?

Normal programming on the 15-2116 is just as easy as it is on any other universal remote, you just look up your devices in the setup code list in the manual, then you type it in.

Now, there's no guarantee that every single function from your original remote will be supported, nor is there any guarantee that all of your devices will be supported, that's the gamble you take with any universal remote.

JP1 users are people who want their universal remote to control every function for every device in their system. Furthermore, they want to be able to create all sorts of macros to make the remote easier to use. So their needs go beyond your needs. While some remotes need parts soldered in for them to be JP1 compatible, the 15-2116 is not one of them, it's JP1 compatible out of the box.

The 15-2116 is also a learning remote, so if there are any functions missing when you try the built in setup codes, you could do the "head to head" thing to fill in the blanks.

Rob.
ps. It was probably on my web site that you saw some JP1 screen shots.
Rob.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday July 1, 2003 at 09:44
nahtanoj
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Thanks! Can you point me to your website? It looked very advances and I'm sure it took a lot of time and knowledge. I understand your car analogy and the point is well taken, but there is a material difference. The mechanism you use to move the car (the gas pedal) is the same you use to go over 55. Thus no additional learning is necessary to make the car go faster. In the case of the remote, I was concerned that I would need to learn the programming in order to use all my components. What your saying is that it might be true, but that is the chance you take with every universal remote, and, in the event this one does not operate everything I have - or evey function on every component, at least this one gives me the ability to try to program it in by connecting it to a web site.

I'm going to check out that remote this week-end. It sounds like a winner. I would be grateful if you can point me to something to gain a basic understanding of the JP1 and how to learn how to use the programming without screwing everything up. Thanks very much!
Post 6 made on Tuesday July 1, 2003 at 13:41
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I included a link to my site in my earlier post, but here it is again: http://www.hifi-remote.com

The JP1 section is: [Link: hifi-remote.com]

I would strongly recommend that you get comfortable with the remote before you try doing any JP1 work on it. JP1 can be confusing to some people, but this is especially true for people who don't understand even the basics.

It would be kinda like asking your driving instructor to show you how to drive really fast, when he hasn't even shown you how to change gears yet.

So, get the 15-2116, program in the regular setup codes for all of your devices and see how well they work, that might be good enough for you right there. If you find a device that doesn't have a code, save that one for JP1. If there are functions missing from the built in codes, you could take the easy approach and learn them, or you could take the advanced approac and see if I have advanced codes listed for them on my site.

Programming advanced codes is undocumented on the 15-2116, so here's some instructions on how to do it:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Rob
http://www.hifi-remote.com
Rob.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]


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