Having just purchased a Harmony One remote yesterday and found it to be completely unsuitable as it can barely be customised at all

I've come across the TSU9300 and TSU9400 (annoyingly after purchasing the Harmony one) which look much better, I haven't had a pronto since the TS-1000.

Does anyone know the main differences in functionality between the two (not physical differences)? Can the 9300 do everything the 9400?

I've heard the 9400 can use prontoscript,, though the 9300 can do this via a workaround. Is this correct? What are the main benefits of prontoscript?

Can either of these remotes communicate via DLNA protocol? (are they any remotes that can?) I can currently use plugplayer on the iphone which works via DLNA and can communicate with my server display album art etc, and push the songs etc, down to my DLNA compliant amp. I would ideally like this functionality in a remote than can deal with IR etc.. if possible.

thanks for your help.

Only real difference is ProntoScript. And I do not know where people are getting the idea that there is a workaround to activate ProntoScript in the 9300.

Not sure about DLNA. Don't believe so though, especially if it use UDP. Pronto only does TCP/IP and not UDP.

With prontoscript you got allot more options to do with your pronto.
You can add other devices to the 9400 becouse of prontoscript.

You can also add other devices to the TSU9300 by:

- Learning the IR code from a original device remote
- Adding the HEX or RC5/6 code in the database
- Adding RS232 Commands in the database

Kevin Teunissen
www.Hooymans.nl

Ye you are right about that. Im useing TSU9300 and TSU9400. And my opinion is that TSU9400 has more fuctions then TSU9300. But the look of the TSU9300 is better.

Thanks for your replies. :) I'm of the same opinion, I much prefer the look of the TSU9300.

Could you provide a little more details(or point me in the right direction) on what can be done with prontoscript as I'm not clear what benefits it has.

I see from the website that the TSu9300 works with windows media centre - can this pull off album art etc. How is it communicating with Vista media centre - isn't it a DLNA compliant server anyway?

Do a forum search for Padone.. this is software for letting your pronto ( including the 9300) communicate 2 way with your pc's MP3 collection...

I understand the desire of Philips to segment their products at different price points but they should consider dropping the TSU9400 all together in favor of a TSU9300 with ProntoScript. Perhaps a new TSU9350 for example. The TSU9400 is a complete clunker in terms of form factor. I was all set to add 2 TSU9300s until I realized no ProntoScript. What a disappointment.

Each to his/her own - I like the 9400 form factor and wouldn't want a smaller screen (which, I think, the 9300 does).

Totally agree with above about form factor. You can have my 9400 when you pry it from my cold dead hands...............

OK. Perhaps that was harsh on my part or maybe I have small hands (no jokes please) I'm sure there are folks who love their 9400s. I would just like to see a 9350 with PS (or should I say, accessible PS as we all know it's in there) There are cases where the smaller form factor is a better fit but PS is still needed. Frankly I'd even pay the same as the 9400 for it but give me the option please.

This is just an observation but the primary benefit of going with a touchscreen versus a button remote is the touchscreen itself. It allows you to set up favorite channel icon pages and the like that are not possible on a button remote. The thing being going with this style remote means you get just enough buttons for frequently used functions and then the advantages of the touchscreen. It follows that the smaller the touchscreen the less advantage you gain from having gone with a touchscreen remote but neither do you have the advantages of a button remote. You end up neither here nor there. Have you actually used one of these remotes or seen it in person? Held it? If you had you would know that the 9400 looks fine in person and even my wife who has quite small hands finds it easy to use.

Physically, I think that the TSU9300 buttons are a little better, but the 9300 screen is smaller and looks a little coarse to me. The 9400's screen looks better to me.

With the better screen and ProntoScript make the choice easy for me -- 9400.

I finally have had a couple of days to play with my new tsu9300 and wanted to share some experiences in case anyone else is contemplating buying one, although most likely in the light of the latest news it might no longer be relevant.

One of the most ridiculous things that I have discovered very quickly was the following: despite being able to do the 1-way serial control via the extender, it really did not work for my Denon receiver – since the receiver does not have mute toggle command over serial (only discrete ones are provided), it is simply impossible to use the dedicated hard mute button on the remote if you want to use rs232. Using the hard button to mute and adding a touch button to unmute on a remote that retails for $799 with the extender that retails for $600 – are you kidding me? So you either need to go back to IR, or live with the clumsy interface with 2 buttons for mute/unmute. To all fairness, this is not entirely the Pronto’s problem, but the lack of the PS makes it simply unsolvable for tsu9300 if you want to steer away from IR (and why wouldn’t you with the Wi-Fi remote?) when controlling the networked/serial capable equipment.

So, if I were to pick and choose the features for the perfect remote based on tsu9300 – if you are not providing me both the extender support and the PS to do the 2-way control, I’d say drop the extender and give me just the PS and TCP/IP over Wi-Fi with WPA. I wouldn’t be happier.

Build quality – I am also somewhat disappointed. The plastic body is indeed very stylish - in my opinion this is absolutely the best looking one handed remote I have ever seen - the shape of the back is excellent, the face is a thing of beauty. It sits very well in the palm and the overall layout is really convenient. Sadly, the build quality is not on par with the looks. The big plastic parts of the body have noticeable movement even when the remote is handled gently – you can both feel it and even hear it squeak when the parts rub against each other.

The row of the 5 “hard” buttons looks like the crooked teeth in the mouth of Austin Powers. And it’s not the “wavy” shape of the buttons (they actually look very slick) - it’s the fact that they are not aligned well. If you look at them from an angle, you can hardly notice it. However, if you pick up the remote, when the backlit starts leaking though the slits between the button and the body, you can clearly see that the buttons are aligned/angled unevenly. They also have a noticeable lateral as well as up/down movement, which is not that big of a deal actually, thanks, again, to the shape of the buttons.

If I were to compare the build quality alone of tsu9300 with, say, old Harmony 550 (the more recent Harmony remotes are actually horrible as far as the build quality goes) which retailed for 1/7th of the tsu9300’s MSRP, shockingly, I am not sure which one I would prefer.

Overall, having owned tsu9200, Sony RM-AX1400 and a couple of older Harmony universals, I do agree that tsu9300 is indeed a significant step up. However, the lack of PS really cripples this remote. Add the inadequate build quality and the whole thing is not that appealing anymore. So, if you are willing to spend more, I’d say go for tsu9400, although since I have never seen the actual remote, I don’t really have an opinion on the build quality.