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240x320 Media Server/Squeezebox Interface Ideas??
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Post 1 made on Friday February 24, 2012 at 14:21
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I've been working on getting a Squeezebox up and running and all the features I want working. Its taking time just to figure out what feature options there are, but its going well.

I started with a simple layout on the ipad and now that all is good i'm working on my PTX3 (since I have a prodigy system at home).

With such little real estate, I'm keeping very simple. I have the main page which shows current playing content, repeat, shuffle and browse control. Then a Pandora and a Library Icon. 

When you select browse or Pandora/Library, a SUBPAGE pops up with scroll list, the up and down nav keys are used to scroll, the left arrow or Menu go back in the list, similar to ATV. Exit or the Close touch button will go back to the main page. 

The browse list is a little slow, is this because I'm using it as a Subage and not a page of its own? Using a subpage is it dealing with all the other now playing fb behind the subpage while its shown?

On the iPad i have 6 lines and have set that as the parameter on the Squeezebox. On the PTX3 I only have 4 lines showing. This doesn't seem to work as its basically the same list. I definitely don't want to limit the iPad to only 4 lines and don't think the PTX3 can comfortably fit 6 lines - unless there is a way to do a cursor to highlight and move down the list?

So are you guys using the MTX3/3X for Media server control at all? How are you making it all fit. Here are some screen shows from what I've got going so far.








So what do you think so far?

Last edited by sofa_king_CI on February 25, 2012 13:50.
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OP | Post 2 made on Sunday February 26, 2012 at 16:56
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Open to feedback. Here is a short video of what I've got going so far:

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Post 3 made on Sunday February 26, 2012 at 21:17
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looks great - what type of hardware are you using for your squeezebox?
OP | Post 4 made on Monday February 27, 2012 at 17:18
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Thanks! This is my testing setup at home. I have the Squeezeradio and running the squeeze server on my desktop. I have a netgear readynas duo that I have installed the server onto and will be testing once I get the NAS all the way setup.

This is with a crestron prodigy system programmed in SystemBuildsr
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Post 5 made on Tuesday August 28, 2012 at 17:04
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Are you doing this for the challenge and because you want something more custom than the already available commercial software available for iPad to control Squeezebox? You will of course have to flip between apps with any other software, but you'll save a ton of development time. And you'll have a much faster UI than will ever be possible using what you are now.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday August 28, 2012 at 20:41
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On August 28, 2012 at 17:04, TwistedMelon said...
Are you doing this for the challenge and because you want something more custom than the already available commercial software available for iPad to control Squeezebox? You will of course have to flip between apps with any other software, but you'll save a ton of development time. And you'll have a much faster UI than will ever be possible using what you are now.

Hes doing it so that the end user can use the same app to start the source and control it.

His application is multi-zone audio where the speakers in some rooms are powered with multi-zone amps and other room (surround zones) speakers are powered by audio/video receivers. This home/business also has other sources and scenarios to think about like "im the only one home so im just listening to streaming music in my bedroom" vs "we are having a party and every room is rocking out to my careful planned playlist".

It would take a lot of app flipping to get the Denon AVR on and set to the correct input and volume level in the den and the Yamaha AVR on and set to the correct input and volume level in the family room and then all of the stereo zones on inside the house and in the yard, start up volume set, source selected and finally source power on/control.
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OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday August 29, 2012 at 02:57
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What he said. And actually this thread was seeing what I could do with my handheld control that I/Clients use to watch TV. The screen size is small and I was seeing how feesible it is to have at least basic control of a music server on the remote. 

Flipping apps back and forth is irritating as hell. It's one thing if its Sonos and you are ONLY using the sonos app once you switch to House Audio, but even that has some shortfalls of convenience that an integrated system offers. 
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Post 8 made on Wednesday August 29, 2012 at 12:35
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Operating the SB *can* be as straight forward as using the Sonos system. But there's more setup work involved.

Not to worry though, Logitech have discontinued the SB line to help everyone out. :)
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Post 9 made on Friday September 14, 2012 at 12:46
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I guess I live in the house of "Discontinued products" Pronto PRO's and Squeezebox. Fortunately nothing stops working. Squezebox works fine and with the right plugins you can have it setup the audio system it is connected to using IR.

For example in my Master Bedroom, the squeezebox player is connected to a Mitsubishi 150 watt stereo power amp that had no IR. I built a little device that takes an IR signal and controls a 110v recepticle. Cost me about $60. When the squeezebox player turns on it sends an IR signal to the power control and the Amp powers up. When the player turns off it shuts off the amp.

In the Theater the Transporter sends an XAP message to the PC that controls the Theater to turn on the audio system (Anthem) and set the source correctly and the volume to default. Anything done to the Transporter results in an XAP message to the PC using UDP so the volume of the A/V system tracks the "Setting" of the Transporter. The Transporter is set for fixed volume as it plays a lot of encoded tracks (DTS). I use an iPad running Squeezepad for control, or the Pronto app I wrote for the squeeze system years ago. Either one works fine because of the PC (think poor mans Crestron) in the loop. Even manual control from the front of the Transporter works correctly.

I can't emphasize how much additional flexibility you get by having a PC "in the loop". Squeezepad will even wake up a PC out of sleep (State S3) when it loads, so the PC will draw very little power yet can issue all sorts of control sequences using IP, IR or Serial. Since SqueezeServer using the XAP plugin can send all sorts of messages to a PC apprise it of the state of every player in real time, it is easy to control all sorts of auxiliary equipment (Amps, AVP's, AVR's, etc. The possibilities are endless.

Last edited by Barry Gordon on October 28, 2012 17:59.
Post 10 made on Tuesday October 9, 2012 at 11:41
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Another GUI interface that works for me as well...
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