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Lighting Control and Hometheater Setup - Help Required
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OP | Post 16 made on Monday November 23, 2009 at 15:33
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This is hilarious, you guys are funny.

What ever happened to no question is a dumb question. What is the point of a forum full of guys who don’t actually want to help anyone out, rather they prefer to slam and belittle someone for asking questions.

Why get so pissed off when you answer a question, and someone asks another because they are digging deeper that you resort to heckling and thread steeling instead.

Just wanted some help and advice, just because the advice you gave wasn’t what I was looking for doesn’t mean you have to be offended.

As it turns out, some guys actually were able to help and offer some alternatives to spending $1000 on 6 Lutron URC switches.

HUH, this is one of the most frustrating forums I have been on. Thanks to those that helped, your responses were very much appreciated.

Sorry to offend those with sort tempers and low self esteem.
OP | Post 17 made on Monday November 23, 2009 at 15:36
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Now backed to my initial post. What do I need to know to make Radio Ra1 or 2 work, and or what do I need to know to make X10 work. I know they will work, and I know they may be more troublesome than Lutron URC, but the trouble may be worth the half price cost.

Anyone still willing to help

Cheers
Post 18 made on Monday November 23, 2009 at 19:13
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LMAO you've well outlasted your welcome over in the "pro" section

Your like the energizer bunny. you just keep going and going. You cant learn on one part of the forum so run here thinking the same people dont read the URC part.

Lutron and X10 together is like oil and water (maybe you can understand that) Your a cheap pr!ck thats going to end up hurting yourself and/or others.

This is by far about the dumbest question ive ever herd asked on here...."or what do I need to know to make X10 work" if you cant figure X10 out you probably should take the advice of myself and others....HIRE A @%#*^ PRO or PURCHASE THE URC DIMMERS.
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Post 19 made on Monday November 23, 2009 at 22:11
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On November 23, 2009 at 15:33, sacer99 said...

What ever happened to no question is a dumb question. What is the point of a forum full of guys who don’t actually want to help anyone out, rather they prefer to slam and belittle someone for asking questions.

Are you for real? I was actually about to offer you some advice, but then I read some of the things you said in the other forum, and I was absolutely shocked. How can you possibly expect people to help you when you start insulting their careers?
OP | Post 20 made on Tuesday November 24, 2009 at 02:02
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Just wanted to know what my options are for this lighting setup.

I think I am going to go with a mcntrol softwat and 6 insteon dimmer swithces at a cost of about $300 total. I have read excellent response about this decision and will potentially save $700 ot more.

Thanks to those who help
Post 21 made on Tuesday November 24, 2009 at 09:48
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Post 22 made on Tuesday November 24, 2009 at 13:53
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On November 24, 2009 at 02:02, sacer99 said...
Just wanted to know what my options are for this lighting setup.

I think I am going to go with a mcntrol softwat and 6 insteon dimmer swithces at a cost of about $300 total. I have read excellent response about this decision and will potentially save $700 ot more.

Thanks to those who help

Hope you have fun, and a slow and painfull bleeding of your checkbook. I hope this costs you 5 times what doing it the way you have been told to do it!!!

Go fu@% yourself now and leave us alone.

Thank you and as you were ;)
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Post 23 made on Tuesday November 24, 2009 at 22:25
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isn't mcontrol used to control your lighting from your pc?  i thought the point of this was to use with a remote, no? 
sacer99 what r u trying to accomplish from what control?
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OP | Post 24 made on Tuesday November 24, 2009 at 23:18
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Fonzanoon,

I am trying to control my lights. Different zones, different levels, different scenes, etc.

It is the clear consensus on this forum that my only real option is to purchase the URC-Lutron made dimmers which will communicate directly with the MX-980. The only problem is this system is a little to pricey for my budget and the switches are hard to find because they are dealer/installer exclusive (I think).

Anyway, I have been reading some other post and gotten some other advice from different guys and someone suggested that I could use Mcontrol (via computer and IRUBT controller to control Insteon, Zwave, or X10 lighting dimmers. From what I understand the MX-980 can be programed with codes to send RF signal to the MRF 350 which will inturn send an IR signal to the IRUSB(IRUSBT??) controller attached to the computer which will then trigger the mcontrol softwares macro (which I will have to program) which will then run the scene or command which I am looking for. No I realize this is a lot more complitcated than installing a URC-Lutron dimmer, but apparently it is a lot cheaper as well.

Mcontrol software and IRUSB can be bought for about $160.00 and Zwave or Insteon dimmers can be bought for between $15-$30 a piece. So for about 300-400 I have full control of my lighting via Mx-980. Granted there will probably be some programming challanges, but some guys have reported this setup to work very well. I don’t mind tinkering, and like the fact that I can add to the lighting system at a cost of $15 a dimmer vs. $150 for URC-Lutron.

Some guys have suggested they have whole home control with this setup and it is very solid.

I can see why most of the pro's on this forum would suggest staying away from this as it can be prone to troubleshooting, but given I am attempting to run and MX-980 and willing to learn the programming, I think I am up for the challenge.

Any thoughts on this setup/suggestion.

Cheers
Post 25 made on Tuesday November 24, 2009 at 23:34
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If price is an issue, why don't you just do half the zones at first?  you can always add more zones as more money frees up and you will have a way more bullet proof system.  as far as your "zones" are they 6 seperate rooms or are they multiple switches in a few rooms? 
i honestly think using urc will be way more reliable and you won't tie up any outputs on your mrf 350, believe me they go fast.  be smart with your money and grow into your system.  i guarantee you will save yourself more in the end.  time is money no matter how you look at it.
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Post 26 made on Tuesday November 24, 2009 at 23:53
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On November 24, 2009 at 23:34, fonzanoon said...
If price is an issue, why don't you just do half the zones at first?  you can always add more zones as more money frees up and you will have a way more bullet proof system.  as far as your "zones" are they 6 seperate rooms or are they multiple switches in a few rooms? 
i honestly think using urc will be way more reliable and you won't tie up any outputs on your mrf 350, believe me they go fast.  be smart with your money and grow into your system.  i guarantee you will save yourself more in the end.  time is money no matter how you look at it.

Gee, why didn't anyone else think to suggest that??????????
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OP | Post 27 made on Wednesday November 25, 2009 at 00:49
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Question...

Do the URC-Luton Dimmers have the capablilty to communicate their status back to the MX-980.

ie. Press "Watch Movie" remote dims lights slowly to off. During movie wife walks down and turns on lights via the switch. Will the remote know if the light is now on?

I read that the URC dimmer doesnt do two way communication like a UPB, Insteon and software combonation might be able to handle. Am I way off with this, or is thier a way to handle those scenerios with the MX-980 and the URC dimmers.

Thanks
Post 28 made on Wednesday November 25, 2009 at 01:41
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On November 25, 2009 at 00:49, sacer99 said...
Question...

Do the URC-Luton Dimmers have the capablilty to communicate their status back to the MX-980.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA!! (it's not the dimmers that you need to worry about)

Am I way off with this...

Yes.
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Post 29 made on Wednesday November 25, 2009 at 15:05
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The MX980 is a one-way remote. You may get feedback from other dimmers back to the PC, but what good does it do you. If you are short on budget, and want two-way control, consider using another remote along side the MX-980. Like this one...[Link: leviton.com]

The one way control from the MX-980 to the URC dimmer allows for a fade-on and fade off.
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Post 30 made on Wednesday November 25, 2009 at 15:14
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On November 25, 2009 at 15:05, GotGame said...

The one way control from the MX-980 to the URC dimmer allows for a fade-on and fade off.

On/Off/8 Scenes/Ramp up/Ramp down
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