Alright guys, here's the skinny for the Dallas/FT Worth/Tyler area. Yes these guys are still at the same location {11126 Shady Trail suite #115 Dallas Texas 75229 ] They drive around and sell speaker components out of five company owned chevy vans for whatever they can get for them, paying in 230-270 bucks depending on the model, to the manager. These guys have a quota of 4 sales a day, anything beyond that gets them bonuses depending on the # above quota, so if they get 4 people to buy them at cost, and at least 1 "big money" sale, say 1000 bucks, after payout they can still walk away with like 400-1000 bucks in hand for the day's work, sounded to me like easy money. But the sales tactics are despicable, you guys are right about that, they shouldn't misrepresent themselves as installation techs selling extra sets from a contracted job, which would actually be selling stolen property, that's just a quick way for them to get people to listen to their pitch, so they can stress the deal and make you feel like it's a once in a lifetime opportunity, which builds the impulse to buy, most people won't believe there's an actual good deal on stuff like this unless it is "hot", and it discourages people from inquiring into the origins of their new equipment, thereby admitting that they purchased "supposedly" stolen goods, which reduces the amount of refunds due to faulty equipment. They shouldn't be trying to turn every no into a yes, they shouldn't misrepresent which set of speakers you're looking at in the catologues, [the non amplified speakers are about 1500 in the catologues, the powered sets range from 2000 to 3300], and they definitely shouldn't cuss people for turning them down. The only set of towers I actually heard hooked up were the Dahlton Tower set with the built in amplifier, at half volume you could hear the set of 2 at the other end of the block, so I wouldn't say they were junk. That said, I think you should simply try hooking up the ones you've got, and for christ's sake people, send in the warranty info card, because they have a 5 year warranty against defects, if yours are defective, don't get stupid and violent, get smart and get them replaced or refunded just like you would if you got something from wal-mart, or k-mart, or Target, or any other department store that deals in mass quantities of electronics, no muss no fuss, no screaming, yelling, or bloodshed. I notice the only people complaining on this site are the ones who A: read up on it and started whining when they saw all the other complaints, or B: happened to get an inferior model and didn't think to get their info straight in case they needed to use the warranty. These guys got smart when the company concept was created, because they knew that most people are gullible, stupid, greedy, impulsive and ignorant. What they're doing is almost entirely legal, in that they are selling a tangible product, not simply a concept or a gimmick intended to swindle people out of thier money like ponsi schemes, pyramid scams, etc... As independant distributors they are allowed to set the price of their product as high or as low as they like. Just because you didn't get the item as cheaply as some other person doesn't mean you were ripped off per say, it just means you're an impulsive buyer who isn't smart enough to shop around. It's not the distributor's fault if one of the speaker sets happens to be faulty, or if the customer doesn't ask for a reciept, any more than if you bought a piece of junk at wal-mart and didn't make sure you had the reciept, then the cops would laugh just as hard at you when you reported wal-mart for ripping you off. The only illegal thing anywhere in this business has already been mentioned in above posts. The independant distributors aren't issued a 10-99 tax form, by which earnings are reported to the IRS, they are individually responsible for reporting thier own earnings, and if they do misrepresent this amount then yes they are guilty of Tax Evasion, the other point is that some towns require you to have a solicitor's permit and may have some requirements to comply with this permit, such as identification badges, etc... and most places requiring a permit specifically state on the permit that you can't solicit anywhere that has been posted "No Soliciting" such as almost any franchised business like grocery stores, department stores, banks etc... which would void said permit. By the way, those "phony" catologues are totally real, bought off the rack at a gas station for 9.95.

So, long story short, for the pi$$ers and moaners, shame on you for not being smarter with your money. And for the ones who managed to get the sets for less than 200 bucks, congratulations on being more resilient than the greasy slimeball salesmen who were simply taught the wrong way to make a sale.