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Ocelot vs CM11a
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Post 1 made on Friday April 20, 2001 at 03:27
David Hind
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My CM11a just died and I am planning on replacing it with an Ocelot and a TW523. Anyone not happy with the Ocelot and TW523. Up till now, all my home automation has been X-10 under HomeSeer.

Comments appeciated.
OP | Post 2 made on Sunday April 22, 2001 at 09:41
Steve Horn
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Regarding the Ocelot and other ADI products, suggest you go to [Link: lists.futurestandard.com] for a forum on Ocelot, Leopard, etc. You may already know of this site but I thought its worth mentioning.

Steve
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday April 24, 2001 at 11:04
Uncle Sergi
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But don't purchase from future....anything - it lasts some months...
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday April 25, 2001 at 02:08
Dan Boone
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I have been monitoring this topic, to see if anyone would jump in.
No takers yet, so I'll jump in.
First.. Yep, FutureStandard has decided to focus on other business interests. They are not currently taking any new orders for HA stuff. This includes the ADI line of products. Too bad, as he is a very knowledgeable and helpful young man. Hopefully, he will step back into the market sometime in the future.
ADI products remain available from www.worthdist.com, [Link: homecontrol.com], and iautomate.com

Regarding the CM vs Ocelot... My opinion is biased, I'll admit that upfront. I make the Ocelot and I love it!
Dan Boone, ADI
OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday April 25, 2001 at 19:10
David Hind
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Not a lot of dicussion. I choose to by from www.worthdist.com but the Ocelot is back ordered. Have to wait an see if they get enough units in to supply the demand. Maybe thats the answer to my question.

Dan, so in your opinion there is no problem doping X-10 with the Ocelot and using it as a computer interface.

Dave.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday April 25, 2001 at 19:27
Larry in TN
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Dan,

I use a JDS Timecommander which I bought before I was aware of the Ocelot. Can you summarize how these two units compare?

I know that the Ocelot gives IR control for a lot less money but what about the X10 side and the programming flexibility? Does the TC hold an advantage in any of these areas?

Thanks...
OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday April 25, 2001 at 23:12
Dan Boone
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Hey, Some questions... Kewl!
David,
Worthington is an excellent choice. Good pricing and they generally have stock. After the Orlando show, they got hit with a ton of orders. We are shipping them product on a continual basis, and they should be caught up pretty quick.
Homeseer is a popular front-end program, and we have a large installed base.
The Ocelot will allow you to incorporate IR features into your application.
Your X-10 stuff should work just fine. One drawback of the TW-523 interface is that it cannot receive extended commands. This is not usually an issue, unless you have a second controller issuing extended commands.
The majority of customers (OK.. all) report increased reliability with the Ocelot.

Larry,
JDS makes very good products. Their support is also first rate. It is pretty rare for a customer to switch from the Ocelot to the JDS, or from JDS to the Ocelot.
Sometimes, customers add an Ocelot to supplement their JDS... the Ocelot brings in the IR and I/O capability via the ADNET modules.
It is very common for HAI (Omni-Pro) customers to add the Ocelot to their setup, in fact this was recently featured on CNN during one of their program segments on Home Automation.
If you are just doing X-10, no need to spend any more money to add an Ocelot. If you decide to expand your setup in the future, the Ocelot may make sense.
Thanks for the questions,
Dan Boone, ADI
OP | Post 8 made on Thursday April 26, 2001 at 10:52
Michael
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I own an Ocelot controller and while it easily does everything I want reliably, the programming interface can be a pain. The controller uses a ladder-type programming logic originally designed for industrial applications. While not difficult to understand and program it can be off-putting at times.

Any problems you encounter with the Ocelot are always quickly answered by Dan Boone or his henchmen.
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday April 26, 2001 at 11:00
Larry in TN
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Michael,

The JDS software is the Timecommander's weak link as well. I'm just wondering if one is weaker than the other. :)
OP | Post 10 made on Saturday April 28, 2001 at 00:42
Dan Boone
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Michael & Larry,
The software approach is used in industrial applications.... and for a very good reason.
Ladder logic is very dependable and pretty easy to debug.
This approach absolutely guarantees that every code line is evaluated.
No way to get caught in some code error that has you continually looping in some silly code segment.
Sure... it doesn't seem to have sub-routines and call statements... but there are ways to accomplish the desired tasks without these functions.
For glitz and glamour, the third party guys are/have developing/developed some pretty good stuff.
I'm a meat & potato (Al Gore would object to the spelling) guy. C-Max works reliably... day in & day out. It is priced attractively (ummm FREE!!) and it is supported right here, and on other sites.
My response borders on spamming... so I will carefully step off the soapbox, sidestepping the occasional tossed tomato, and allow you to make your own decision.
Thanks for the bandwidth,
Dan Boone, ADI
OP | Post 11 made on Saturday April 28, 2001 at 05:27
Uncle Sergi
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And we wait from Ocelot to recognize more than 80 IR commands.
OP | Post 12 made on Sunday April 29, 2001 at 01:47
Dan Boone
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Sergi,
The Ocelot can compare against all 1024 stored IR commands. The factory default is 80.
Simply change the "Max IR Compare #" Parameter to increase the maximum compared IR #.
Check out the parameter list in the latest manual, on our website, for the specifics on changing the parameter value.
www.appdig.com
Dan Boone, ADI
OP | Post 13 made on Sunday April 29, 2001 at 07:05
Dom
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Hey Dan,

Any sign of the Ocelot on this side of the Atalntic (UK)?

Enquiring minds want to know :)

Dom
OP | Post 14 made on Monday April 30, 2001 at 01:44
Dan Boone
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Dom,
I'll forward your inquiry to our sales dept.
We have a few hardy souls handling product in Europe.
Expect one of our sales guys to post a list in the AM.
Dan Boone, ADI
OP | Post 15 made on Monday April 30, 2001 at 05:12
Dom
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Cheers Dan,

I'm just starting with A CM12U and Homeseer - I could add a PCRemote for IR handling, but a one box (two inc X-10 interface) seems more elegant.

Dom
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