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Pioneer Elite Receiver RS-232 .lib?
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Topic: | Pioneer Elite Receiver RS-232 .lib? This thread has 12 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 10:10 |
Jimmy Bellagio Advanced Member |
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Anyone have a .lib for Pioneer Elite RS-232 control? Trying to control a 94TXH newer model and was wondering if anyone had something on hand?
Thanks
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James S. Bellagio |
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Post 2 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 15:03 |
ErikS Active Member |
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I added a set for the 94 that includes every command including xm, siruis, ipod and network to the mega 232 list. You can get it here: [Link: mastertheaterbuilders.com]
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Post 3 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 16:47 |
TitaniumEye Long Time Member |
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I didn't realize that it was submitted yet and now that I look at my library I realize that I haven't imported the list yet....downloaded it, just forgot to import it. I see that you're the contributor for the Pio 94 ErikS.....Thanks for that!
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OP | Post 4 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 18:32 |
Jimmy Bellagio Advanced Member |
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I actually did the same damn thing - Erik, you rock. Thanks.
I am a little new to RS-232 but I have dabbled with it before.. Does the ignore first command basically mean you have to power it twice, etc.?
Thanks - Jimmy
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Post 5 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 20:20 |
ErikS Active Member |
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As quoted by pioneer:
"To meet stringent power conservation measures Pioneer A/V receivers consume less than 1 Watt when in the "Standby" or "Off" mode. To achieve this the main CPU doesn't operate in Standby/Off. For this reason the receiver may not understand the first command send to it's the RS-232C port but the main CPU will "wake up" with the first command. In other words, the receiver is using the first command as a trigger to wake up the main CPU and may not respond correctly to it. For the proper execution of the first command please send the command twice."
The only major problem is when you need the discrete off. When you just send two "offs", and the unit was on, it will turn off then on again because first command received in standby is an "on". To get around this I have been sending a volume to a preset of -40db then off. If it doesn't always set the volume to -40db, not a biggie but it always turns the unit off. Just make sure you have .1 sec between the 2 commands.
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OP | Post 6 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 22:59 |
Jimmy Bellagio Advanced Member |
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Erik - Why would you send the off command twice? If the unit is on, and you need to shut it off, are you saying you need to send the command twice to get it to owork? For a discrete off, why not just an ON (to wake it up), then off? OR , just change the input to something else, then off? I know I am missing something as you describe it.. On March 29, 2008 at 20:20, ErikS said...
As quoted by pioneer:
"To meet stringent power conservation measures Pioneer A/V receivers consume less than 1 Watt when in the "Standby" or "Off" mode. To achieve this the main CPU doesn't operate in Standby/Off. For this reason the receiver may not understand the first command send to it's the RS-232C port but the main CPU will "wake up" with the first command. In other words, the receiver is using the first command as a trigger to wake up the main CPU and may not respond correctly to it. For the proper execution of the first command please send the command twice."
The only major problem is when you need the discrete off. When you just send two "offs", and the unit was on, it will turn off then on again because first command received in standby is an "on". To get around this I have been sending a volume to a preset of -40db then off. If it doesn't always set the volume to -40db, not a biggie but it always turns the unit off. Just make sure you have .1 sec between the 2 commands.
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OP | Post 7 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 11:11 |
Jimmy Bellagio Advanced Member |
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Anyone know how to get around the issue with the volume up/down? The RS-232 code only lets it go up a notch at a time with each button press and it does not sustain. Checking off a sustain only makes it move up 20+ decibals at a time. Anyone know how to deal with this? On March 29, 2008 at 22:59, Jimmy Bellagio said...
Erik - Why would you send the off command twice? If the unit is on, and you need to shut it off, are you saying you need to send the command twice to get it to owork? For a discrete off, why not just an ON (to wake it up), then off? OR , just change the input to something else, then off? I know I am missing something as you describe it..
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James S. Bellagio |
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Post 8 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 19:18 |
ErikS Active Member |
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On March 29, 2008 at 22:59, Jimmy Bellagio said...
Erik - Why would you send the off command twice? If the unit is on, and you need to shut it off, are you saying you need to send the command twice to get it to owork? For a discrete off, why not just an ON (to wake it up), then off? OR , just change the input to something else, then off? I know I am missing something as you describe it.. I am saying do not do as the protocol quotes and send two off commands as it has the potential to operate incorrectly. You are exactly right by turning it on or setting a different input then off. I use the volume set to -40db but it doesn't matter. To solve the volume racing, after you select sustain there is an option to add a delay between repeats. It varies by manufacturer but .1 to .3 seconds between repeats is average.
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OP | Post 9 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 20:05 |
Jimmy Bellagio Advanced Member |
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On March 30, 2008 at 19:18, ErikS said...
I am saying do not do as the protocol quotes and send two off commands as it has the potential to operate incorrectly. You are exactly right by turning it on or setting a different input then off. I use the volume set to -40db but it doesn't matter.
To solve the volume racing, after you select sustain there is an option to add a delay between repeats. It varies by manufacturer but .1 to .3 seconds between repeats is average. Once again, thank you kindly. Been a great help.
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James S. Bellagio |
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OP | Post 10 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 21:35 |
Jimmy Bellagio Advanced Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2008 854 |
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On March 30, 2008 at 19:18, ErikS said...
I am saying do not do as the protocol quotes and send two off commands as it has the potential to operate incorrectly. You are exactly right by turning it on or setting a different input then off. I use the volume set to -40db but it doesn't matter.
To solve the volume racing, after you select sustain there is an option to add a delay between repeats. It varies by manufacturer but .1 to .3 seconds between repeats is average. Just to close out this thread, the correct delay is .3 repeats when controlling volume.
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James S. Bellagio |
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Post 11 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 21:35 |
george p Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2002 185 |
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On March 30, 2008 at 11:11, Jimmy Bellagio said...
Anyone know how to get around the issue with the volume up/down? The RS-232 code only lets it go up a notch at a time with each button press and it does not sustain. Checking off a sustain only makes it move up 20+ decibals at a time. Anyone know how to deal with this? You can create a macro on the vol buttons and use the RTI "Repeat Steps" command. Set it in the "Until button is released" mode and put in the RS-232 volume commands. Later, George P.
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OP | Post 12 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 09:32 |
Jimmy Bellagio Advanced Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2008 854 |
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Thanks George, was thinking of doing that, but had figured there was a way to tweak the code set. What do you guys do in the case of MUTE ON/ MUTE OFF? Since there is no RS-232 mute toggle do you give the customer two buttons? Or do you let him just press VOL+/- which realeses the mute state?
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James S. Bellagio |
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Post 13 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 20:23 |
ErikS Active Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2003 699 |
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You can use the "toggle IR code" function in the macro window. It is normally used for IR codesets that use a toggle bit, but you can use it for serial commands also.
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