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Smoke damage revision
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Post 1 made on Sunday March 9, 2008 at 13:17
maverickmedia1
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My company has installed 70K worth of electronics, LCD, Plasma. Also 3 T3's & 3 RP-6's. Just curious how much would someone pay for an RP-6 or T3 that has smoke damage. I have yet to remove anything but curious what you guy's think. Obviously it is not under warranty after smoke damage. RTI is local to me so I could bring it to them for a cleaning.

Rev1.1 How much would you pay for a T3 or RP-6? 25 cents on the dollar? We know what installers and integrators can get the remotes for from AVAD or RTI but how much would you pay for one out of warranty w/ smoke damage?
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Post 2 made on Sunday March 9, 2008 at 15:27
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My question is how do you know that it only has smoke dammage?
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Post 3 made on Sunday March 9, 2008 at 17:01
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look at these results of a Google search of smoke damage to electronics:

-cleaning must be done immediately to prevent further damage from the smoke acids

- Particles landing on the exposed electronics can bridge the electrical connections and create short circuits. Additionally, they can react with the metal and plastic components (which often have trace amounts of chemicals on them left over from manufacturing) and cause further damage through corrosion [Link: help.lockergnome.com]

--In a fire, hydrogen chloride, which is formed when polyvinylchloride is present, is deposited on various materials. Electronic equipment is especially sensitive since malfunction may occur after a longer or shorter time of operation due to the chloride contamination. [Link: springerlink.com]

point is this is like asking what to sell a flood damaged car for: I assume there was an insurance claim? whoever ends up with this gear will likely have problems with it and will regret the purchase...at any cost
Post 4 made on Sunday March 9, 2008 at 20:28
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On March 9, 2008 at 13:17, maverickmedia1 said...
My company has installed 70K worth of electronics, LCD,
Plasma. Also 3 T3's & 3 RP-6's. We know what installers and integrators
can get the remotes for from AVAD or RTI but how much
would you pay for one out of warranty w/ smoke damage?

Something makes me think you are not an RTI dealer.
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Post 5 made on Sunday March 9, 2008 at 22:01
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ditto
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OP | Post 6 made on Monday March 10, 2008 at 22:04
maverickmedia1
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I am. I just don't wan to devulge too much to those who look at this site and are not dealers. Pricing is as you know confidential.
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Post 7 made on Wednesday March 12, 2008 at 00:56
Tom Ciaramitaro
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On March 9, 2008 at 17:01, markrubin said...
look at these results of a Google search of smoke damage
to electronics:

-cleaning must be done immediately to prevent further
damage from the smoke acids

- Particles landing on the exposed electronics can bridge
the electrical connections and create short circuits.
Additionally, they can react with the metal and plastic
components (which often have trace amounts of chemicals
on them left over from manufacturing) and cause further
damage through corrosion [Link: help.lockergnome.com]

--In a fire, hydrogen chloride, which is formed when polyvinylchloride
is present, is deposited on various materials. Electronic
equipment is especially sensitive since malfunction may
occur after a longer or shorter time of operation due
to the chloride contamination. [Link: springerlink.com]

point is this is like asking what to sell a flood damaged
car for: I assume there was an insurance claim? whoever
ends up with this gear will likely have problems with
it and will regret the purchase...at any cost

Mark, that's all good info, except that keypads and remotes are basically sealed units. You can't get deposits of particles or hydrogen chloride (I thought this was HCL, hydrochloric acid, a liquid??) on circuit boards when they are not accessible to the smoke and soot.

In my electronics repair decades, we did some smoke damage restoration, and unless you had melted plastics, a cosmetic cleaning was usually sufficient.

Now a flood...that's a different critter!!

On ebay it's anyone's guess... someone buying a single lot, however, would probably offer 10 cents on the dollar.
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