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Post 1 made on Friday February 8, 2008 at 10:30
xman2310
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Hey guys,

First of all great website. I have found a lot of good information. I do have a question or 2. We have a complete system done that was setup as IR. We have since added an RP6. Now this is my first RTI install, and my question is we have 5 TIVO's all with Favorite channels pages, do all the macros for all those channels need to be moved or built on the RP6?

Also we have a mix of IR and RF; I did read that in order to do this we need to have some of the buttons in standalone mode in order for the IR and RF commands to work correctly. Is this true? I have tested this and it does work but I just want to make sure that I am doing this correctly.


Also if anyone wants to send me a complete system, just so that I can compare what I'm doing to be sure I'm on the right track.

A little break down on what we have:

5 TIVO's
1 Plasma
1 Projector
1 DVD
1 RP6
1 RM 433
1 T2-C

Thank you in advance!! My email is pstenborg at dialup2000 dot net

Pete
Post 2 made on Friday February 8, 2008 at 20:44
internetraver
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I'm pretty sure the macros only have to be built into the rp6 if you plan on doing page links (please wait screen). Buttons do have to be in standalone mode to send out IR.
Post 3 made on Friday February 8, 2008 at 21:03
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You should take an instructional class through the dealer site. It will elaborate closely on the channel macro wizard and other essnetial points when creating macros.
Post 4 made on Saturday February 9, 2008 at 13:03
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The RP6 allows you to route IR output from the system to specified emitters, allowing your tivo's to function independently. Fav's should be programmed like normal except for the routing.

Mixing IR and RF, if there is a lot of IR being sent, can be a pain.
Viewing the latest online recorded training sessions at A*adU will be a big help.

I always recommend going completely RF if at all possible... Pointing a remote is SOO 2007

:)
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Post 5 made on Saturday February 9, 2008 at 14:21
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On February 9, 2008 at 13:03, cassidycaid said...

I always recommend going completely RF if at all possible...
Pointing a remote is SOO 2007

:)

Uh, Dont you mean SOO 1999
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Post 6 made on Saturday February 9, 2008 at 15:49
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indeed
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Post 7 made on Saturday February 9, 2008 at 21:40
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How much RS-232 control are you using? If non use ports 1-5 for your TIVO's. You need to port route all channel macros for each Tivo. The new software may work better than 5.1.
Don't shoot the messenger!!
Post 8 made on Sunday February 10, 2008 at 10:02
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What's the recommendation for channel macros...if there are a lot (ie most all of the DirecTV channels). Store them as system macros on the RP6? or on individual remotes?
Post 9 made on Sunday February 10, 2008 at 11:45
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Program them with the channel wizard on the individual remotes. The software actually stores the codes on the central processor even though you seem to be programming the remote.
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Post 10 made on Sunday February 10, 2008 at 16:34
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On February 8, 2008 at 10:30, xman2310 said...
Hey guys,

First of all great website. I have found a lot of good
information. I do have a question or 2. We have a complete
system done that was setup as IR. We have since added
an RP6. Now this is my first RTI install, and my question
is we have 5 TIVO's all with Favorite channels pages,
do all the macros for all those channels need to be moved
or built on the RP6?

Once you add the RP6 to the configuration all IR will be automatically assigned to the RP6, however, you will have to assign IR port routing and the quickest way to do this is by using the channel macro wizard to edit them.
Also we have a mix of IR and RF; I did read that in order
to do this we need to have some of the buttons in standalone
mode in order for the IR and RF commands to work correctly.
Is this true? I have tested this and it does work but
I just want to make sure that I am doing this correctly.

Direct IR needs to be sent using the standalone mode. RF to crestron systems also needs to be sent in standalone mode.
A little break down on what we have:

5 TIVO's
1 Plasma
1 Projector
1 DVD
1 RP6
1 RM 433
1 T2-C

The facts of (and questions about) your system...
1) You have 8 components but only 6 ports and one high out.
2) The Tivo's require individual routed or addressed IR.
3) Are you using 232 for anything? If so, you need a dedicated port.
4) Do any of your components use Direct IR inputs? If so, you should use a dedicated port.

The Tivo units can be addressed to one of three unique addresses which can help save port space (unit #0, #1 and #2) and prevent some of the control leakage between components. You can use an IR connecting block on the high out and place at least two (possibly 3) of the addressed Tivos on this common block to reduce your port demands. I do not recall if unit #0 (the default) is a global address or not (will also control unit #1 and #2). Perhaps someone can comment on this fact.

Plan your port assignments and routing needs ahead of time so that you can have a control wiring plan and advance time to program this in.
OP | Post 11 made on Tuesday February 12, 2008 at 10:59
xman2310
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On February 10, 2008 at 16:34, tgrugett said...
Once you add the RP6 to the configuration all IR will
be automatically assigned to the RP6, however, you will
have to assign IR port routing and the quickest way to
do this is by using the channel macro wizard to edit them.
Direct IR needs to be sent using the standalone mode.
RF to crestron systems also needs to be sent in standalone
mode.
The facts of (and questions about) your system...
1) You have 8 components but only 6 ports and one high
out.
2) The Tivo's require individual routed or addressed IR.
3) Are you using 232 for anything? If so, you need a dedicated
port.
4) Do any of your components use Direct IR inputs? If
so, you should use a dedicated port.

The Tivo units can be addressed to one of three unique
addresses which can help save port space (unit #0, #1
and #2) and prevent some of the control leakage between
components. You can use an IR connecting block on the
high out and place at least two (possibly 3) of the addressed
Tivos on this common block to reduce your port demands.
I do not recall if unit #0 (the default) is a global address
or not (will also control unit #1 and #2). Perhaps someone
can comment on this fact.

Plan your port assignments and routing needs ahead of
time so that you can have a control wiring plan and advance
time to program this in.

First of all great responses! Thank you very much.

I also forgot to mention, not sure if it matters, but this is an upgrade from a Harmony remote to RTI. My boss wanted me to get everything working fine in standalone mode. I did that. Then we added the RP6 to the mix.

No RS232 in this system.
All the TIVO's have IR remote codes assigned to them (i.e. 1-9) And the TV and projector run on IR. This system is a lot larger we have an Kenwood entre, dvd player, Niles in house audio, XM, but for now all we are looking to control is the TIVO's, TV, projector, and DVD. Once we upgraded to ID6.1 all IR commands quit working. We are getting signal from the remote to the RP6 but nothing is happening.

I did take all the programming classes on the dealer website but this is something that my boss kinda threw at me and said learn how to do this. I'm not a custom installer by trade. So this is my first system. A lot of this is trial and error on my part. I thank you guys for taking the time to read my posts even if they seem very "newbie".

Thanks
Pete


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