I am using a Pro with the RF extender as all my equipment is in another room. Can you tell which receivers you know for a fact have discretes for all the obvious stuff but also DTS/DSP modes. Most have toggles being I can't see my equipment this is a PITA for me. I also need to control a second room. Just volume and input nothing fancy. My Pioneer receiver only has toggles for those modes and the A/B speaker switch is only accessible from the front of the receiver not remote controlled. How dumb is that?!!!!

So if some of you guys have something that has discretes for everything please let me know. I called Onkyo and they have them for DSP but none for DTS. I am waiting to hear back from Denon.







This message was edited by ECHOSLOB on 05/16/02 14:06.53.

Are there modes for DTS? Most higher end receiver auto pick the correct format for the stream provided on the DVD>

Try Marantz or Yamaha.

JJP

Since I posted I have been going nuts looking around.

Marantz,Yamaha,B&K= NO DD II

It looks like the best bang for the buck is the Denon 4802. It pretty much does everything I will need and then some.

Dolby Digital II? You mean Pro Logic II right?

There are not really any 'modes' for dolby digital...

A lot of sites call it Dolby II. I assume it's the same as PLII. Admittedly I get mixed up between DTS and DSP. When I do read about both I forget which is which and what each one does within about 5 minutes :) I do have toggles on my Pioneer for both.

Well, you cant really toggle between DTS and Dolby Digital, nor can you toggle an analog PLII signal to anything other than PLII. A DSP is like Hall Mode, Stadium Mode etc. Which I find utterly useless by the way...

If you listening to a CD, listen to it in stereo, the way it was meant to be..

JMHO

I can see I didn't phrase that right. I meant I had toggles for each I din't mean toggle between them. I agree the DSP stuff is a waste of time. I just sounds like echo to me.

Matt is the DTS to take 2 channel and make it sound like DD? I think that is what it is, is that correct? The DSP is to change the surround effect coming from a real DD encoded media? Now they have NEO also. I think that is something like DTS? Help me out here and get me straight. LOL Thanks

Nope, DTS and DD are two different formats of digital bit streams. DSP is something other than either of these. Pro logic is decoded from 2 channel material. Both DTS and DVD are discrete bitstreams. Each using a different compression rate. Here's a cool page for an easy explanation of the differences between them.

[Link: audioholics.com]

Just to follow up on Matt's response... DSP usually means "Digital Signal Processor", which refers to the chip and/or theater "type" modes that your receiver gives you... like "Elvis Playing in the DanceHall", Jazz, Small Toilet... stuff like that. Dolby Digital (in all its forms) and DTS (and its offshoots, too) are digitally processed signals, of course... ... Mike

Thanks guys I have a good understanding of it now. I ended up changing my mind again on the receiver. I am going with the Denon 5803.

Denon is a good choice, although, I perfer the onkyo stuff. And marantz pre's. I have the AV-9000 and it's crazy good. ; )

Anybody know anything about problems with the Denon's receiving DTS signals. I've come across 3 in the past 4 months that simply won't play DTS. Everything else was diagnosed- not the disc, DVD player, or the setup within the receiver menu.
I've been sticking with Onkyo and been pleased.
Of course Denon had no clue.

Uh-Oh, Looks like they're puttin' a voo-doo curse on your 5803.
ECHOSLOB: Have you looked at Onkyo's Integra line?
http://www.integrahometheater.com/