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LOGIC? - RIGHT & LEFT MID SIDE SURROUNDS
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Post 16 made on Wednesday December 26, 2001 at 02:58
Bruce Burson
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Doug,

While you're playing with positioning the side surround speakers, I have a suggestion. In addition to Larry's recommendation to place the direct radiators beside your listening position, also try placing them slightly to the rear. Assume a compass circle around your listening position. Directly to your right would be 90 degrees and left is 270 degrees. Try moving the right surround back to about 105-120 degrees or so, and the left to match. (Mine are at 108 degrees, which several sources cited as a good location during 5.1 days). Then, play with the angles from those points (I have mine pointed forward and down, to fire directly at the listening area, after a suggestion from Matt). Just an idea, but I really like the sound. It helps to slightly mitigate the "pronounced stereo separation" that Larry mentions.

Reference two center rears: I used to do the same "PL decoder in the back" method that Larry does. If your PL amp has outputs for two center speakers, you just plug one speaker into each. The way I did it (I seem to recall from one of Larry's posts that he does the same) was to run a Y splitter from the center out jack on the PL amp to another stereo amp and plug the two center speakers into the stereo box.

-Bruce
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Post 17 made on Wednesday December 26, 2001 at 13:22
Larry Fine
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Doug, Bruce is correct: the two rear-center speakers play as one, with a single DPL output split with a Y-connector. The speakers I use as the rear-center 'one' are a pair of Def Tech BP-20s, which are very capable stand-alone towers, basically the same as my mains (BP-2000s) without the built-in powered subs.

They only stand about three feet apart, so I'm not going for any separation here, anyway. They do provide all the bass I could want from the rear, with the DPL set to 'L & R - small' and 'center - large'.

The surround speakers (my sides), the BP-Xs, are di-polar, as are all except the front-center, but these are the only ones that do not have the driver panels opposite and parallel.

They are trapezoid-shaped, with the wide back panel against the wall, the narrow front panel blank, and a pair of 'woofers' and one tweeter on each of the angled faces, so they do fire in a splayed direction, to the front and rear of straight into the seating position.

The fact that the two panels of drivers are wired in phase is what makes them bi-polar, as opposed to di-polar. As I've said before, I believe that once we graduated past a single surround channel, a la Dolby Surround & Pro Logic, the benefits of de-correlation vanished, and directional cues became more desirable.

Larry
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