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Topic: | Componet/Composite/WEGA This thread has 14 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Thursday December 13, 2001 at 21:45 |
oldgearhead Founding Member |
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I recently upgraded our small HT set-up with a Sony WEGA NTSC TV. I was wondering if anyone has tested componet video vs. S-video from the same source DVD. My feeling is that the difference would be very small on cable runs less than two meters.
Anyone have any input?
old,,,
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Post 2 made on Thursday December 13, 2001 at 21:50 |
Matt Founding Member |
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Dude, your so wrong...sorry.
The resolution of the component video is FAR superior to that of composite or S-video video. Set your DVD to 16:9 mode and then set the TV to 16:9 mode and you will be blown away by the picture! I have the exact setup.
Buy the AVIA test DVD to set up the color and tint etc of your system and the Wega is a very difficult picture to beat! Enjoy...
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Post 3 made on Thursday December 13, 2001 at 22:11 |
magster Founding Member |
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Old,
The difference between two good cables (S-vid and component) will be slight. Maybe in the area of 10-15% improvement. There is a far bigger (night and day) improvement between Composite and component. This is what the majority of AV testers/reviewers agree on.
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OP | Post 4 made on Friday December 14, 2001 at 07:40 |
oldgearhead Founding Member |
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Matt & Magster - Thanks! Because of the weight of the Sony and the location of the shelving, its a 4 hour job to change anything in my system. Therefore, I need to have everything ready before I begin.
old,,,
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Post 5 made on Friday December 14, 2001 at 22:23 |
Matt Founding Member |
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I belive my own eyes, not the eyes of some tester/reviewer dude...
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Post 6 made on Friday December 14, 2001 at 23:31 |
magster Founding Member |
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Matt,
Guess the majority of us must be wrong then? Of course this would depend on the cables being compared. I did state "two good cables" would have to be judged. I have a custom made s-video cable that would challenge the majority of component cables on the market. I think the component cables would be clearly better with longer runs of over say 50 feet and not as noticable at shorther lengths.
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Post 7 made on Saturday December 15, 2001 at 11:40 |
Matt Founding Member |
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No, that is my opinion...not your wrong (or anyone else). In my experience S-vid still has some artifacts that component does not.
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Post 8 made on Sunday December 16, 2001 at 16:22 |
magster Founding Member |
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Matt,
You are right in that sense. Given two similar quality cables then the component cable will be slightly better. But the difference is not as large as you stated. That was my point and not that s-vid was better or as good as component.I have an S-video cable that will leave the cheaper component cables lacking. Of course its a custom made cable with 4 RG59 solid core, teflon insulated cables and no shared shields.
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Post 9 made on Sunday December 16, 2001 at 21:07 |
Matt Founding Member |
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LOL, quite the s-vid cable...
I'm using 3 Belden 1694A for my component.
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Post 10 made on Monday December 17, 2001 at 15:40 |
automan Founding Member |
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"Of course its a custom made cable with 4 RG59 solid core, teflon insulated cables and no shared shields"
So, you have no EMI sheilding on your cable...how is this good? If the sheilds ore not connected, you don't have a 75 Ohm characteristic impedance either.
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OP | Post 11 made on Monday December 17, 2001 at 17:21 |
oldgearhead Founding Member |
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I think, for now, I'll convert my VHS/VCR to S-Video, run both the DVD S-Video, and the converted VHS/VCR S-Video through the A/V receiver switch, and set the WEGA to S-Video monitor only. Furthermore, I'll tune the local cable channels at the VCR. This should give me a pretty good 'wife compatable' system, because the A/V receiver mode switch will take care of 90% of the everyday functions. It's too bad no one makes an A/V receiver capable of switching mixed inputs to component output, in my price range ($600.00).
Thanks all, old...
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Post 12 made on Monday December 17, 2001 at 18:39 |
automan Founding Member |
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"It's too bad no one makes an A/V receiver capable of switching mixed inputs to component output, in my price range ($600.00)."
Probably because transcoding composite or Y/C to component would add $600.00 to the price.
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Post 13 made on Monday December 17, 2001 at 23:02 |
magster Founding Member |
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Automan,
The s-video cable uses 4 runs of belden 1506a cable. They do not use the shield for signal return. The cores are the only part connected. They are therefore heavily shielded. If you check around you will find quite a few of the better S-video cables use a similar design. The picture results are stunning although the cable is stiff and bulky. Not what I would call flexible but the results far outweigh this minor negative. The cable was custom made for me so I cant speak to the importance of 75 ohm rating. But then who cares because the picture more than speaks for itself.
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Post 14 made on Tuesday December 18, 2001 at 13:15 |
Larry Fine Loyal Member |
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Mag, I'm surprised the shields aren't grounded at one end. I would have added a pigtail (like the 'drain' wire used with foil shields) for this purpose. Larry www.fineelectricco.com
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Post 15 made on Tuesday December 18, 2001 at 13:21 |
automan Founding Member |
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"The cable was custom made for me so I cant speak to the importance of 75 ohm rating"
It is important, which is why it's part of the spec.
If the sheilds are not connected to anything, then your cable is not sheilded.
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