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Long in-wall RCA cable runs
This thread has 44 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30.
OP | Post 16 made on Tuesday July 24, 2001 at 17:18
Doc
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BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! Run RG6, or shielded RG59. Use mud rings for new construction, or cut the backs out of the electrical boxes for retros. Use the Leviton quickport rca to rca jacks. Buy nomal f-type to rca adaptors. Crimp f-jack onto RG6 or 59 and screw f-type to rca adapter to end of cable. Plug rca side of adaptor onto back of leviton quick port and plug rca cable to front and run to equipment. The reason for the mud ring or cutting the back of the boxes out will allow for the use of the f-jack to rca adaptors behind the wall.
OP | Post 17 made on Tuesday July 24, 2001 at 19:36
jeff
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...or solder the RCA's to the cable.....much better than 4" worth of signal attenuating, impedance mismatching adaptors.
OP | Post 18 made on Wednesday July 25, 2001 at 17:02
Jason Alexander
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Bryan I have done some reading and some reasearch on this lately. What you can do is buy either this "RG-6/U Dual Shield Siamese Coaxial Cable" or "RG-6/U Quad Shield Coaxial Cable" from Belden. Then buy F-Female to RCA adapters for each end of the Coax. What this does is make Cable Coax a RCA cable with major shielding.


Go here
[Link: hometech.com]

Look for this "2126 F-Female to RCA-Male Adaptor" at the page. Depending on how many rca connections you need you need two of those adaptors for each cable. It may get expensive but hey you want it as good as it gets. You can also find the coax cable at the site as well.

P.S. What I said earlier on 7/14 is partly true but most of it you can ignore.

Jason
OP | Post 19 made on Wednesday July 25, 2001 at 17:28
jeff
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"It may get expensive but hey you want it as good as it gets"

If you want it as good as it gets...DON'T get adaptors. Solder the RCA connectors to the cable.
OP | Post 20 made on Wednesday July 25, 2001 at 21:01
Jason Alexander
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jeff your scary you know that!!! If you read my post you would understand. Adaptors don't do anything but adapt the plug it doesn't do anything to the signal. Its like adapting a big stereo plug to a small one nothing changes but the size of the plug.


Jason
OP | Post 21 made on Wednesday July 25, 2001 at 21:04
Jason Alexander
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Im Sorry jeff for dissing you. But could you explain what your talking about by soldering the RCA connctors to the cable.


Jason
OP | Post 22 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 09:19
jeff
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"But could you explain what your talking about by soldering the RCA connctors to the cable. "

I don't understand what is so difficult about the concept of doing somrthing right. When you terminate a cable with a BNC connector, you put a BNC connector onto the cable, not an 'f' connector and an adaptor. All i'm saying is, if you want to terminate in RCA connectors, then solder the RCAs onto the cable, adaptors are unecessary, they also introduce impedance mismatch. I was mistakenly under the impression that quality would count.
OP | Post 23 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 09:20
jeff
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and Jason...whats so scary about a soldering iron?
OP | Post 24 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 10:26
Spiky
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YES, adapters do affect signal. Every single connection affects signal. Every single foot of cable affects signal. Impedance gets messed up as jeff said, but also plain loss occurs. Sorry, Jason, not dissing YOU. But each link is weak, in a perfect world you would solder each end of the wire directly to the component and only have a 6" cable.

jeff, soldering RG-6 shield isn't that much fun. (or RG-59) But crimp RCA connectors exist for RG-xx cable. This is what people should look for. Canare makes them, although people say Canare is so specific only their connectors work with their cable and vice versa.



Another thought:
Jason, I think you are considering buying premade coax cables with F connectors already attached. jeff is talking about bulk cable which you add connectors yourself. So add the right connectors is his point. I would think bulk cable would be much easier for specific runs from one room to another. (which was the original topic)
OP | Post 25 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 15:50
Bill
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As my post way above mentioned we bought canaire RG-59 stranded in bulk and solder rca's to the ends, which really was not that difficult. I believe the crimp RCA's that canaire makes only work with their special crimp tool (expensive), so we bought some generic solder rca connectors in bulk and did it that way. It worked fine, everything looks great. RG-59 might not have as much sheilding as RG-6 but this RG-59 from canaire is great to work with, very flexible and great when you have them coming in bunches through the wall boxes. If all you are using it for is video and audio signals (no catv or satellite) you should be fine.
RG-6 quad sheild is a little more difficult to work with.
OP | Post 26 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 15:51
jcmitch
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Belden provides a list for their cable and the matching Canare connectors. Liberty Wire and Cable, Sysnergistic Research, IXOS, and MIT also have appropriate cable and matching connectors you could use in place of an F-RCA adaptor.

jcmitch
OP | Post 27 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 18:42
Jason Alexander
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I stand corrected and I understand now. I didn't know you could soldier or crimp RCA connectors on Cable Coax. Why because I haven't seen any RCA connectors that do that.


Jason
OP | Post 28 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 18:47
Jason Alexander
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Is there any websites to these companies you guys are listing. I want to look into this!!!


Jason
OP | Post 29 made on Thursday July 26, 2001 at 20:12
Robby
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You didn't know you could solder or crimp RCA connectors? how do you think they're connected to cables anyway?
OP | Post 30 made on Friday July 27, 2001 at 02:17
Jason Alexander
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I knew about RCA Crimp connectors I didn't know you could solder them.

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