I just replaced a $3K Sony 61HS10 HDTV 4 X 3 with the latest $4K
Toshiba 16 X 9 65H80.

Summary:

1. Cable and small dish is better on the Sony. GIGO, though.

2. 4DTV/HD200 sat is gorgeous on the H80.

3. The stretched mode will take some getting use to but they're good.

4. Need more inputs on both but the Tosh has 2-HDTV inputs.

5. I sit 12' away and both were OK.

6. I think the Sonys line doubler (DRC) is a little better.

7. The sharpness of the H80 must be near zero.

8. Good in-TV sound on both.

9. Sony remote far better.

10. I haven't removed the glare screen yet but it has less glare than
the HS10.

11. pDVD's, like 5th Element, are far better on the Tosh due to ~30
MHz input vs 11-12 MHz for the HS10, and 16 X 9.

12. Only one set of outputs on the Tosh. No TV outputs HDTV.

13. The Tosh manual is better.

14. Some initial Tosh right-side convergence errors that can be fixed.

15. Picture shifted right on the Tosh, easily fixed.

16. The Tosh is a tweakers fantasy with all the stuff one can
find/get on the web.

17. Front input far higher than the Sony to under-TV cable to it, as
I use it.

18. The Thomas Crowne Affair was like watching "film" on sat HDTV
last night due to the sharpness at near zero and the 16 X 9 aspect
ratio.

19. The Tosh uses number and bars for contrast, etc settings.

20. The NFL games yesterday looked OK on cable and sat, but still am
getting use to stretched or zoom modes.

21. OK cabinets on both.

22. Same 2/1 year warranty on both.

23. Best Buy extended warranty was $299 for the Sony and $450 for the
Tosh.

24. Menu operation better on the Sony.

25. The Tosh has a screen size button on the remote...cool.

26. The Tosh remote will handle more devices.

27. The Tosh is wider and about the same heigth and depth.

28. I was always playing with the Sony's picture adjustments but
don't do that much with the H80.

The most important spec to me is picture quaily. My HS10 had the
glare screen removed and ISF'd whereas I haven't done anything except
Avia with the 3 day old 65H80.

a. pDVD - Tosh wins easily.

b. Big dish 4DTV sat - GIGO but the Tosh wins.

c. Small dish - Less artifacts with Sony - Sony wins.

d. Cable - GIGO but the Sony wins.

The Tosh is a better HDTV "for me" and proabably in the top 3 for
~$4K. Some say this model rivals the $8K Elite 701HD and I agree.

I'll soon have the Tosh ISF'd, as I did the Sony HS10, when I have
300 hrs on it.

Jim

Hi Jim Christian,

15. Picture shifted right on the Tosh, easily fixed.

Can you tell me how you fixed this ? I have the 40H80 and I have the same problem. Thanks

how much should it cost to have a RPTV tweaked by an ISF tech?

Kevin,

See [Link: keohi.com]:

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I have paid between $250 and $550