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Dish vs. Cable
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Post 1 made on Wednesday September 13, 2000 at 09:36
Adam
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I'm sure this has been discussed, but which is better, Digital Cable, or a dish?
OP | Post 2 made on Thursday September 14, 2000 at 04:30
Sean
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In my experiences a DSS system always has had a much better picture, alot of the digital cable boxes don't even have a s-video output.
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday September 14, 2000 at 14:39
Jeff
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Well, I'm in the process of moving from cable to Dish Network... on first look, the Dish PQ is much softer than cable... and the colors don't seem as saturated. However, it could be the video cable I'm using. The Y-Pr-Pb cable that comes w/ the Dish 6000 doesn't seem to be of very high quality, so I'm sure if I put in the Videoquest component cable I use for my DVD player, I'd get a much better picture. Right now, I'd say its a wash.. The Dish picture is much more pleasing to the eye, but I can see compression artifacts... w/ cable, I have interference noise in some stations, and the picture is probably overly enhanced.
OP | Post 4 made on Monday January 29, 2001 at 09:06
jim
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have had dish for about 3 years.
dumbest move i made in a while!
do the math...
the remote is junk.$$
the reciever wont last!$$
only a 1 year warrentee!!
Dish will sell you replacemet parts
at a retail mark up!$50.00 for a junk remote!
They are nuts!
If there was free replcement on the cheap equipment I had to buy, then it would be more appealing.
Movies will be at the block busters for a month+
before you see them on dish!
Where is the bargin???
And oh yea, buy a head set and a good book if you ever want to get through to customer dis service, you will have a long wait!!
OP | Post 5 made on Sunday February 11, 2001 at 01:18
Carroll
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Jim what rcvr are you using?
OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday February 20, 2001 at 17:48
Robert
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jim probably works for the cable company......robert
OP | Post 7 made on Saturday February 24, 2001 at 00:35
JO
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As a dish network subscriber for several years, I can say without reservation, that any dish deal is going to beat cable (analog or digital) hands down in any comparison you want to use. Like Jim says, do the math. I pay about what the local cable company charges for their limited channel lineup and a single feed of some of the movie channels. For that same money, I have a packaged deal of 150 channels PLUS around 30 movie channels, with a super channel package, all for about $70.00 a month. I get a video feed that is only slightly lower than the video feed I get from my component DVD feed. I have access to movie channels that are broadcast in 5.1 surround sound and will receive others has the become available with out a cost increase. I have channels that cable subscribers don't even know exist.

The remote is junk? With this junky remote I can sit in my basement and change channels on a receiver that is upstairs that sends a feed to the TV I am watching in the basement. Can a cable remote do anything like that? Most remotes included with electronic equipment only handle their companion equipment well (at best). That is after all why most of us are on this board and why I purchased a pronto TSU2000.

Receivers junk? When was the last time the cable company designed a system that could be upgraded via a modem while you slept, and if they did, they would want to bill you for it every time they did it. Does the cable box (I can not even bring myself to call it a receiver) have multiple s-vhs outputs or even one for that matter? How about an optical digital and component outputs for the finest audio/video possible? My dish RECEIVER does. The cable box, now there is an example of bleeding edge technology....

When the local cable company upgraded their system to "digital" it forced the local residents to get a cable box installed in their homes if they wanted to continue watching their premium channels. People woke up one day, and it was like, hey honey, where's the HBO? Of course, that did not stop the cable company from sending out the same old bills charging their customers for a service they could no longer receive. It seem there are many more small dishes on the houses around here than there used to be....

I have read the cable industry has decided what the consumer wants is more channels not better quality. In their vain attempt to give John Q. public what it has decided it needs, they have compressed the audio & video feeds to a point that they are sub standard to even a VHS tape deck. I have personally witnessed a cable customers digital feed where every time he switched channels you had to wait for the blocking to go away before you could see what was on the channel. On a 50 inch TV, it painted a row about three inches wide down through the screen until the entire screen was filed with rows of blocks. Only then did the blocking go away to display an incredibly washed out picture. This viewing was made even more distasteful by the fact that we both own the same 50 inch Mitsubishi (VS-50703) TV, so I know what the set is capable of. When I question him about it, his reply was it was always that way and that you got used to it after a while....

As an industry, cable has drug their feet on the whole HDTV issue. Their first move was to ignore it thinking that it might go away. When that failed they fought and are still fighting the must carry rules that would require them to rebroadcast the local HDTV feeds. They bickered with the TV industry about what THEY wanted to connect to the TV sets and capitulated to the movie industry by agreeing to utilize hardware that can prevent John Q. from recording channels that he has paid to have access to. This whole negative attitude has added to the delay and lack of availability of HDTV. Instead of being a market leader that their market share would seem to dictate, they have been a dark cloud on a already dark horizon of a HDTV reality.

The cable companies have an attitude about service i.e.: I have a monopoly so what do I care what John Q. really wants. They feel that John Q. is really blind in one eye and can not see out the other so he does not need a quality feed. They hunger for maximum profits that is meet by delivering sub-standard service to a closed market. Because of all this, any dish service will beat any cable service hands down in any comparison. The little dish is the new player in the game. They will go out of their way to wean the poor people out from under the cloud of despair and into the sunlight of crisp video and sparkling audio. Go with the dish, and never look back....

want to know more? visit: [Link: dishnetwork.com]

jo
OP | Post 8 made on Saturday February 24, 2001 at 01:30
mason hatcher
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In response to Jo,

AMEN!!!!!!!
OP | Post 9 made on Monday February 26, 2001 at 18:58
Butch
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My $.02 worth. I have digital cable (Adelphia) which in may area uses the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 box.
The Good: S-Video output
Coaxial digital output
Quality picture, better than the little dish
No equipement purchases
Average to good customer support
The Bad: Picture not as good as the big dish.
lousy audio, no stereo except MTS on locals
Very few digital channels, mostly analog.
The Ugly: What good is a coaxial output if I get
no stereo. Hmmmmm.
My advise to anyone considering dig cable is to check it out in your area and know what you are getting and do not get it if there is a service agreement or some sort of contract. Butch


OP | Post 10 made on Saturday March 3, 2001 at 09:02
Ray
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I've had AT&T Digital Cable for 2 months now... I had Dish for 3 years... I HATE CABLE!!! The difference in quality in the signal is night and day. The only UP side to the cable is I can run more than two different sets with just the one digital box... The caviate being only the one running the box gets the full line up. I miss the stereo broadcasts from my dish... I miss a real menu system for channel lineups... I miss a REAL document (manual) for ALL the boxes (AT&T said... here's the power button, here's how to change channels!). Granted I get more of the local channels (that I don't watch) with the cable, but if it isn't part of the 'digital' lineup, it's in mono... 10 more months of purgatory and I'm back to Echostar! Oh, as for the negative coments about getting help... At least the Disk guys knew what a home AV system was all about and did what they could to insure the dish integrated well. The cable guy slammed in the cable... A quick run thru on the cable box and remote and was gone! I guess that was more than two cents... Oh, well...
OP | Post 11 made on Saturday March 3, 2001 at 20:42
Spiky
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Hah! In my area, digital cable is a pipe dream. You'd think Minneapolis, being the 13th or so biggest city in the country, would have it already. Not so, Time Warner has had "Digital Cable Coming Soon" on every invoice for a year. Jokers.

Like others said, it depends. Here, satellite is a no-brainer.
OP | Post 12 made on Sunday March 4, 2001 at 19:51
JO
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Ray, In reference to your note about one digital box.

Along with my Dish system I have installed a digital ChannelPlus Modulator. Before I had two receivers, I used one of the outputs from my model 4000 to feed the channelPlus. That signal was then feed back through the house on channel 86 (could have been any unused cable channel).

Now that I have two receivers, I feed the same 4000 back into my Mits as the ant b input. The main dish input is the newer model 6000. This gives me back the PIP for the satellite feed that I lost when I went to the dish with only one receiver.

The ChannelPlus played fairly well with the local cable signal but for best results I have run it on its own cable path. Just another option for us...
JO
OP | Post 13 made on Saturday March 17, 2001 at 00:23
Anonomous
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Directv beats them all! Hands down!
OP | Post 14 made on Sunday March 18, 2001 at 22:03
Skibum
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IMHO
Picture and sound quality are Much better and more consistent on DTV than digital cable. It's especially noticable on big screens and HD sets

If you have a 32", or less, you may not see the difference and if you don't have a surround sound system you probably won't be able to hear the difference either.

If it weren't for the HD broadcast and the fact that I need to have basic cable service in order to get the Cable Modem I wouldn't have cable in my house.

Ski


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