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Bottom line on Remotes and using Palm
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Post 1 made on Thursday July 1, 1999 at 16:16
Jeff
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I was looking to replace my 4 remotes with 1 and be able to program the interface (including labels and macros) to my specifications -- and I had better things to spend $300-$400 on.

I read ALL the messages and reviews EVERYWHERE and narrowed it down to the Sony RM-AV2000 or using the Palm Pilot. I decided on the Palm over the Sony because 1) I wanted the ability to program the labels and make the thing very customized and dummy-proof and 2) I needed to order some computer equipment and I found an offer that included a free Palm III -- I actually got two of them. The Palm III can actually be bought for about $135 now -- close to the price of the Sony, yet a more versatile device.

I did consider a Pronto or similar device with a nicer remote interface than the Palm. Instead of paying $300-$400 to buy one of those programmable jobs with the slicker looking interfaces I spent the money on a new receiver with Digital Dolby, DTS, on screen menus, and digital and S-video inputs up the yin-yang (JVC RX888 - hard to beat for $350)!

So on to the point of my message. I loaded Omniremote onto the Palm and programmed a few buttons. I quickly found out the IR signal worked from 8 feet on my cable box, from 1.5 feet on my Kenwood receiver only with the glass door on the cabinet open, and not at all on my Mitsubushi big screen.

Then a friend called and I told him about the two free Palm's I got and we worked out a deal where he would buy the 2MB upgrade for his Palm Professional and I would trade him straight across for one of my new Palm III. This way, I got an IR (comes on the 2MB upgrade) that was more powerful than the Palm V and the add-on IR from the Omniremote people, AND I didn't have to use the Palm upside down. I would highly recommend going this route by buying a used Palm Professional and then spending $50 for the upgrade.

Now everything works great, even the TV. The range still isn't quite as good as the stock remotes, especially on the Kenwood, but I am hoping the new JVC receiver will have better IR pickup. One trick to improve range is to hold the button down a little bit as opposed to quickly tapping it when you are "training" the Palm.

The only thing I don't like is the fact I can't make the macros on Omniremote change to another screen. You can make the macros execute buttons on the different screens but you can't get it to actually change to a different screen at the end of the macro. Hopefully, they will add this in a future release.

I am also loading a drink recipe program and storing our telephone book on the remote as we make a lot of phone calls from siting on the couch. I really like the versatility of using this type of device instead of a dedicated remote device despite the more basic looking interface.

My bottom line advice to those looking for a remote is; if you are a big home theatre junky, have a lot of components (more than 5) or your components are more than 10-12 feet away, and you don't have something better to spend the $350 on, buy something like the Pronto.

If you have something better to spend $300+ on, (especially for a frickn' remote), yet you want programmable capabilities similar to something like a Pronto (with a bit less visually appealing screen interface), and you don't sit farther away than 10 or 12 feet from your equipment, get your hands on an old Palm Professional (probably worth about $75 from a friend or maybe on E-bay) and pay $50 for the 2MB upgrade.

If you just plain don't want to spend $300+ or don't want to program a remote from scratch, or have a lot of components, or sit more than 10-12 feet away from your equipment, go with the Sony for about $120.

OP | Post 2 made on Sunday July 4, 1999 at 00:50
PDD
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Way to go Jeff. $135 now? Wow...you definately can't go wrong now.

Yes, you most DEFINATELY spent your money wiser with getting the Dolby Digital/DTS receiver over the Pronto. There really is no reason to purchase the Pronto without having the full blown home theater, or for that matter, any remote control over $100! As far as remotes go, they should be LAST on the list for setting up your home theater.
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday July 6, 1999 at 18:31
Jeff
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I found a trick to improve the strength of the IR on the Palm Pilot Pro with 2MB upgrade -- snap out the little dark red window that covers the two IR diodes. It seems I can get a few extra feet of range now.

I might also add, those who have their components behind a glass door probably shouldn't opt for the Palm either as I have experienced a significant difference in range when components are behind glass. It varies from component to component.
OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday July 6, 1999 at 18:35
Jeff
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By the way, the OmniRemote people said that version 1.2 (coming out this summer) will allow macros to change category screens at the end of the macro.


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