On the TSU 3000, what is the "default" time for duration on a given button. If i wanted to make the duration longer, clicking on minimum, starts at .01 seconds. Is that longer than default or shorter?
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I think it has previously been stated that an IR Code in a macro has the repeat part transmitted 5 times.

For an IR Code that is not in a macro, it is transmitted as long as the button is pushed, but I don't know if there is a minimum time or not.

sorry peter, that didn't help me because i don't really know anything about the way it all works. The problem i'm having is that on my pioneer products i noticed i have to hold the bottons down longer than any other brands. I saw the "new" duration button and thought i could fix my problem.

tTy it and see what happens.

I had that to on my Pioneer CD and MD player with the previous firmware. I solved that by adding a 0.1 delay to every button. Now with the new firmware I removed all those delays again and to my surprise it worked, without specifying a duration (I just left it at default)

They might have put the default back at whatever it was for the first Pronto (which worked perfectly until they started fiddling with the RC5000, and continued fiddling with the Pronto NG).

I updated my firmware and it all works beautifully! Thanks.

This message was edited by shotzes on 04/19/05 02:43 ET.

I expect the default is much longer than .01 seconds.

Most IR signals have a repeat pattern around .1 seconds long. So a duration less than .1 seconds probably wouldn't get you beyond the minimum possible duration for the signal.

I assume the Pronto still obeys the repeat pattern. For example a protocol with a simple .09 second repeat pattern would permit a .09, .18, .27, .36, etc. duration. It wouldn't permit an arbitrary duration. I assume that if you ask for .25 in such a protocol, you'd get .27

My rough understanding of the old firmware is:

1) If the IR signal is the only action on a button, then the duration depends on how long you press the button. The only minimum (for a really short press) is the one-time part of the signal.

2) If the IR signal is one of two or more actions (including when you just add a tiny delay as the other action), it has a fixed (in the firmware) duration that has changed from version to version, which in at least one early version was too long for many devices and in all versions has been too short for many devices (no one duration is good enough for the range of devices).

How does the new firmware act? If I understand the earlier posts in this thread correctly, the new one has a default duration that is longer than the fixed duration described in (2) above.
Can you reduce that on a device basis for devices that were problems when (2) was longer?
Can you reduce it on an individual signal basis?
I assume you can increase it on an individual signal basis (since most of the complaints leading to creation of the feature were specific commands needing very long duration).
I assume it is the fixed duration when a signal is one of multiple actions. Is it also a minimum duration when the signal is the only action? (Duration is the longer of that minimum or the actual press)?

John,


Your post could be an answer to one of my (many) questions in a separate thread ([Link: remotecentral.com]) :


Although I'm using the new firmware, if I tie in your 'understanding of durations' with the JVC weirdness of the one burst pair for a single press, could that not explain why M1 works more reliably than B2?

John, it is labelled "Minimum Duration" in the editor, and it is stored with the IR Code. It applies whether or not it is a single action or one of multiple actions (i.e. a macro).

Yes, that explains it.

The default duration used in sequences when there is more than one action must be a good duration for that particular signal. It must be longer than the minimum duration used for single action keys.

I guess that means that the new minimum duration feature can only increase the duration vs. the previous firmware version.

This new IR duration is great.
I have mostly all Sony equipment and had to add the .1 sec delay to all the codes. Now I did away with the delay and set the minimum duration to .1 and now it works great.
Also on my Motorola Cable Box I set the minimum duration to .01 and now it is faster reacting. If I want channel 150, I can now type in 150 faster than I could before without having it miss a number. Definitely a noticable difference.