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Philips DVDR75 eject (RC6 code?)
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Post 1 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 13:16
kjheu
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I have just purchased a Philips DVDR75 dvd recorder. The remote does not have an eject button. You need to press and hold the stop button for a few seconds to open the tray. I learned the Stop button to my Pronto-2000 and captured this code:

6000 0072 0000 0001 0030 0031

Is there a way to modify this code to create a "one press" eject button? I tried to make an eject button by aliasing the learned stop code several times, but it didn't work.

Can someone please help?

Thanks

This message was edited by kjheu on 03/01/04 14:14.
Post 2 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 17:52
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What model Pronto?

Can you get a better estimate of how long you need to press stop?

A few seconds of an RC6 signal in a single 0000 format string would probably exceed the maximum length for a Pronto Hex string. But I'm not sure of that without trying a specific length.

0000 format also may have issues with the RC6 toggle bit. (But I suspect in this case the toggle bit actually helps).

7000 format would get the toggle bit right and might allow a longer signal in a Pronto Hex string (I don't know that level of detail). I don't recall which Pronto models support 7000 format.

Maybe using a short 0000 format string aliased multiple times would solve it. The fact that it gets the toggle bit wrong would solve the main reason that the 6000 format string can't be used that way. If the delay is short enough, it ought to work. Is this a Pronto model that lets you program the delay between steps in a macro to less than the default value?

The MakeHex program could be used to generate the short 0000 form for that (RC6 device 48, command 49).
OP | Post 3 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 21:28
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I am using a tsu-2000. It seems that the stop button has be held in for 3-4 seconds before the tray opens. Using MakeHex with device 48, command 49, gives me the following code:

0000 0073 0000 0013 0060 0020 0010 0020 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0020 0020 0010 0010 0010 0020 0010 0010 0020 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0020 0010 0010 0020 0010 0010 0010 0010 0020 0BE1

Are you suggesting I should alias this code a bunch of times with no delays in between? Any idea how many times to get 3-4 seconds?

Thanks for your help!

Post 4 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 23:06
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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I have seen this idea work with other products, but do not know enough about actual IR codes to look into the codes you post and tell if it would work.

For instance, a JVC D-ILA projector needs a 2-second IR code. The Pronto won't learn it and repetition of the command does not work. Daniel told me via a post that the IR command had two parts, an initial string and a repeating string. Repeating the entire code repeated the initial string, so the device always saw code after code, not one long code. The solution --

Learn Part A, the command itself. This contains the initial string.

Learn Part B, the repeating part. Cover the IR emitter on the remote, initiate LEARN, then uncover the IR and learn the resulting string.

Make a macro of one part A followed by as many part Bs as necessary to get it to work. Use no delays.

The JVC needed 11 repeats of part B, then worked flawlessy. Your product might respond to this, or might not.

A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday March 2, 2004 at 10:00
Evert Nieuwlaar
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There is a more simple solution: the RC6 code for philips DVD recorders to eject the disc is: RC6, 48, 66.
Post 6 made on Tuesday March 2, 2004 at 10:25
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On 03/01/04 21:28, kjheu said...
Are you suggesting I should alias this code a
bunch of times with no delays in between? Any
idea how many times to get 3-4 seconds?

If you can really get no delay in between, I'm pretty sure it would work and completely sure that something similar (maybe an extra command first to fix toggle bit issues) would work.

That frame sent once is a hair longer than a tenth of a second. It has repeat built in, so when you alias it once, I think it gets sent three times, but I'm not at all sure of that.

It sounds like you want about 40 frames of the signal, but I'm not sure whether that requires aliasing it 40 times or 13 times or what. If you alias it 40 times can you measure roughly how long that takes the Pronto to send?

Even if you add no delay, the Pronto has a minimum delay by default. Do you know how to reduce or disable that feature in ProntoEdit? (I don't, but I've seen mention of it).

If you can't reduce that extra delay. That might break the idea entirely, or it might have no effect, or it might reduce the number of frames you need, or it might keep the same required number of frames but make that number of frames take longer.
Post 7 made on Tuesday March 2, 2004 at 10:28
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On 03/02/04 10:00, Evert Nieuwlaar said...
There is a more simple solution: the RC6 code
for philips DVD recorders to eject the disc is:
RC6, 48, 66.

If that works on this model, the 6000 format code would be a little better to use than the MakeHex.

6000 0072 0000 0001 0030 0042

Edit: Right after posting I realized you're probably using a version of ProntoEdit that lets you enter RC6 directly, so you don't need the 6000 format nor MakeHex for this.
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday March 2, 2004 at 17:32
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That RC6, 48, 66 code works great! Thank you. How did you know that? Is there a list somewhere? The reason that I ask is because to get FF and REW you need to press and hold the Next Chapter and Prev Chapter buttons for a couple of seconds. It would be great if I could get these on a seperate button also.

The Next Chapter is
6000 0072 0000 0001 0030 0020

And the Prev Chapter is
6000 0072 0000 0001 0030 0021

Thanks again.
Post 9 made on Thursday March 4, 2004 at 10:54
Evert Nieuwlaar
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A few more codes that are not on the original remote:

Fast Forward: RC6, 48, 40
Fast Reverse: RC6, 48, 41
Discrete off: RC6, 48, 142 (only works with more recent DVD recorders)

You might want to check my ccf for my previous dvdr1000 dvd recorder which you can find in the file area. The download also includes a document with RC5 and RC6 for my philips devices.

The RC6 codes can indeed be entered directly with ProntoEdit version 4.05


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