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What Pronto Do I Have ?
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Post 1 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 01:18
BrianBN
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I bought this Pronto Pro second hand and there is no type mentioned on it, s0 it could be either the US (6000) or the European (970) type....

Is there anyway I can determine which of the two it is? Is there any software that shows me the typenumber?

Prontoedit seems to be just a happy to update both the firmware of the 6000 or the 970 in the RC....so can't use that to find out which one it is...Help..?
Post 2 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 09:31
Anthony
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I have not seen a 970, but I would guess that if on the sticker on the back there is an FCC ID then it is a 6000, if not (and has the European equivalent) then it is a 970
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Post 3 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 09:41
André du Fresne
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I am not completely sure, if this is a reliable way to tell which modell you have, but maybe you can figure it out by checking the brands listed in the database. I would guess that you won't find brands like "Bang & Olufsen", "Grundig" or other more european makes in the american 6000.
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OP | Post 4 made on Monday March 1, 2004 at 12:38
BrianBN
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The Brands relate to the firmware....right?....unfortunately this RC accepts both the 6000 as the 970 firmware update... :-(
Post 5 made on Tuesday March 2, 2004 at 05:51
André du Fresne
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Brian,
hmmm... was worth a try, wasn't it ;-)
I have checked my 6000 and found another label underneath the battery pack, below the serial number.
Have you checked there, too?
André
TSU-9600, URC MX-3000, ProntoProNG TSU-7000
OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday March 2, 2004 at 15:16
BrianBN
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Yep....no label here...bummer.....gonna see if I can find someone measuring the frequency...
Post 7 made on Tuesday March 2, 2004 at 16:32
bomberjim
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IIRC, the Euro models will control X-10 directly while the US models are a different frequency. You could check the files areas for codes and try try it if you know someone with X-10 devices.

Jim L
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday March 3, 2004 at 01:20
BrianBN
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Jim, the files are defined by the firmware and CCF that is put in the pronto...and I can put in firmware and CCF's of both the 970 or the 6000...so no no chance of finding a difference...
Post 9 made on Wednesday March 3, 2004 at 01:37
Peter Dewildt
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But the frequency used for RF will be different.

If it can take both firmware, why do you really need to know which it is?
Peter
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Post 10 made on Wednesday March 3, 2004 at 01:45
bomberjim
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Brian,

What I meant was the RF emitter for Euro models is a different frequency, as Peter said. The firmware doesn't matter it will only emit a specific frequency that'll communicate with Euro spec X-10 devices, while a US version won't, different hardware in the remotes.

Jim L
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Post 11 made on Wednesday March 3, 2004 at 07:57
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If you have any 433.92MHz RF controlled devices then Jim's suggested test may tell you whether your ProntoPro sends 433.92MHz or 418MHz. However, I don't think you'll find codes for this in the files area. X-10's RF protocol has 256 addresses and 6-7 function codes which makes for more than 1500 codes. My extensions to that protocol add about 70000 additional codes.

The link below lists some 433.92MHz lighting systems. CodeGen™ has the codes for X-10, Philips SBC Power Control System and Elro AB600. You will need to make certain that you've properly programmed the Pronto to send RF.

[Link: mbx-usa.com]

If you have access to the RF2IR half of an X-10 Powermid, I think (but am not sure) the LED will blink when it receives RF. However, you will need to be sure it's a 433.92MHz version of the Powermid and not the older 418MHz version that was formerly sold in the UK. I think (but am not sure) the 433.92MHz version will have a CE compliance label while the 418MHz model will not.

The radiated power level is very low. Measuring the RF frequency directly requires some fairly sophisticated equipment.
OP | Post 12 made on Wednesday March 3, 2004 at 13:27
BrianBN
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Well, today I used some"fairly sophisticated equipment" ;-) to measure the frequency...and without any doubt....418MHz on mine and nothing on 433MHz...so I better stop programming for X10 and get an IR-> RF unit for this...

Thanks


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