Is there anyone who has/can tried/try these discrete codes (power especially) for the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 3100HD?

Thanks
Shane

Power Toggle:
0000 0049 0018 0018 00bf 00b8 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 0030 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 008f 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 0771 00bf 00b8 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 0030 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 008f 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 008f 0030 0747

Power On:0000 0048 0000 0018 00c0 00c1 0030 0092 0030 0091 0030 0030 0030 0091 0030 0092 0030 0092 0030 0091 0030 0091 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0091 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0030 0091 0030 0092 0030 0092 0030 086b

Power Off:
0000 0048 0017 0018 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 002f 0031 002f 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0888 00c1 00c1 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 002f 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0091 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0030 0031 0091 0031 0888

these both were toggles on my sci. atl. 8000hd.
have you located any other discrete on and offs?

The above "Power Toggle" is a bad learn of command 7, which is the standard Sc. Atl. power toggle.

The "Power On" is a good learn of that same command. I don't believe it acted as discrete On for any Sc. Atl. model.

The "Power Off" is a bad learn of command 28. None of the CCF files for Sc. Atl. that I've seen include command 28, and enough people have done command searches that I expect command 28 does nothing on recent Sc. Atl. models, and I'm quite sure it isn't discrete off for recent models.

Long ago, Sc. Atl. boxes used CH+ as a discrete On command and had a seperate discrete Off command. (I misplaced my notes on that, so I can't check whether the discrete Off was command 28). The other commands (including Power Toggle) have remained the same through many models, but they dropped the discrete Off and stopped recognising CH+ as a discrete On. I haven't heard of any recent model that supports those.

A few days ago, I ran across (Panasonic(old):27:28)aka command 28 as an Off command listed in one of the big cml files, so i suspect this was the old discrete off that john is describing. I also doubt that it will work for all the reasons John pointed out. It can't hurt to try.

Basically set top boxes use about the same amount of power On or Off so leave it on all the time.

This is an important concept, especially if you are programming a remote for someone else or teaching them how to use their (new) system.

If you leave the box on, then the very moment that audio and/or video are switched correctly, you will hear or see them, so there is less chance of a person getting confused by forgetting to turn the cable box on, or by a macro mishap.

In a perfect world, all these commands would be discrete. But since they are not, minimize confusion by being sure that they are on. If one of these boxes had a discrete on, I would go so far as to have an ON command in a system macro, but never use the OFF command.

The same thing goes for a DSS and even a VCR if it is used as a tuner: the DSS uses the same power either way, and the motor in the VCR stops after a few minutes of STOP, so nothing is wearing out at that point.

Part of being a control freak in these matters is knowing when the proper control is to STOP PEOPLE FROM TURNING STUFF ON AND OFF.