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Extended Volume Code Possible??
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Post 1 made on Saturday June 7, 2003 at 09:31
drhb
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Is there any possiblity for a "multiple" volume code (ie to simulate a longer volume button press)for the following volume codes used in the Outlaw 950 preamp??

The present Pronto volume codes are:

Vol Down:

0000 006d 0022 0002 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 06fb 0155 0055 0016 0e4e

Volume Up:

0000 006d 0022 0002 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 06fb 0155 0055 0016 0e4e

Would greatly appreciate any help on this!

Thanks,
Harris
Post 2 made on Saturday June 7, 2003 at 09:42
johnsfine
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Yes. And unlike most Vol signals, these might even have a clear advantage to editing the signal for duration rather than just binding onto a key a sequence of the same function over and over.

To extend these signals you must increase the 4'th value (that is a 0002 now) and you must tack extra copies of the last 4 values onto the end. Each 2 in the 4'th word indicates one set of the final four words, so if you wanted 4 sets of the final 4 words, the 0002 would change to 0008 and you would tack on 3 additional copies of those final four, giving you:

0000 006d 0022 0008 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 06fb 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e

Remember that these values are all in hex, so the 4'th word would be 000A for 5 copies or 0010 for 8 copies, etc. (And remember the count includes the set that was there to start, so 8 copies means 7 additional ones).
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday June 7, 2003 at 14:08
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Thanks VERY much for the help. You made it extremely clear, and thus I can now extend codes on my own. I really appreciate the help!

Best Regards,
Harris

Update: I just tried all three versions of the codes, and all seem to be the same in effect: only 1 notch of volume change (which is the same effect as the unmodified codes). Not sure what I am doing wrong, but even the code you posted above, still has only a 1 notch increase.

Do you know if there is some other change needed??

Thanks,
Harris

This message was edited by drhb on 06/07/03 14:31.
Post 4 made on Sunday June 8, 2003 at 08:47
Anthony
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you probably need to extended it much more.
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Post 5 made on Sunday June 8, 2003 at 09:29
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On 06/07/03 14:08, drhb said...
Update: I just tried all three versions of the
codes, and all seem to be the same in effect:
only 1 notch of volume change (which is the same
effect as the unmodified codes). Not sure what
I am doing wrong, but even the code you posted
above, still has only a 1 notch increase.

I'm not sure which "three" versions you mean. I'm also not sure why it isn't working. Anthony's suggestion is one possibility and easiest to test. Make a version with about 20 copies of that end part and see what that does. If 20 copies still has no more effect than the orriginal, something else is wrong. If the version with 20 copies does too much then you have a basis for estimating the right number.

Where did the orriginal signal come from? Did YOU learn it from the orriginal remote or did you find it in someone else's CCF? If you found it somewhere, we must consider the possibility that it was program generated, rather than learned and wasn't quite right to begin with.

What version of ProntoEdit and of the Pronto are you using? That's getting outside my expertise, but I'm wondering if some part of the software is recognising and "cleaning up" the signal, undoing the change you made. That's unlikely, but if true you'd need a seperate learned signal of just the end part and a macro to send one copy of the first part and several of the end.
Post 6 made on Sunday June 8, 2003 at 09:35
Lyndel McGee
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John,

DRHB uses the RC9200 and is using the latest version of TSS. One other thing you might want to consider asking is...

Are the codes you working with on a device that is IR based or RF based. DRHB has both in his CCF.

Lyndel
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OP | Post 7 made on Sunday June 8, 2003 at 20:45
drhb
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Thanks John, Anthony and Lyndel (Lyndel, it has been awhile!) for getting back...

The three copies referred to are the 0008, the 000A, and the 0010 versions. Lyndel, your memory serves you well indeed! However, I was testing the codes strictly on the ir side. John, they were learned directly with the 9200 remote from the original remote. I will try to do the extra addons and post the results.

Best Regards,
Harris

I tried it again, but still no difference. Perhaps I am not doing correctly. For example, the fourth set if it is 0020, then I assume this would mean 5 additonal last sets beyond that in the 0008 code. I tried this both on vol up and on vol down. John, can you indicated a sample code for a much longer volume up or down than the codes I noted in my original post? Just to avoid any possibity of confusion (on my end, obviously ;-) ),
Thanks,
Harris


This message was edited by drhb on 06/08/03 21:12.
Post 8 made on Sunday June 8, 2003 at 23:34
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I think he meant 20x not 20 hex=5x
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Post 9 made on Monday June 9, 2003 at 04:29
Eigeny Oulianov
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May be, RC9200 has learn that codes incorrectly (there amount of troubles with NEC formats at 9200), and the code you need is

0000 006d 0000 0022 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 06fb

If it will slides volume too fast, increase last word (06fb).
Post 10 made on Monday June 9, 2003 at 05:46
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The instructions I gave were wrong. Sorry about the inconvenience. Try these (I think corrected) versions:

two times original:

0000 006d 0024 0002 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 06fb 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e

four times original:

0000 006d 0028 0002 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 06fb 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e

eight times original:

0000 006d 0030 0002 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 06fb 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e

sixteen times original:

0000 006d 0040 0002 0155 00ab 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0040 0016 06fb 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e 0155 0055 0016 0e4e
OP | Post 11 made on Monday June 9, 2003 at 06:55
drhb
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Thanks Anthony, Eigeny, and John...

John, are these for Vol Up?? How would I apply these to volume down??

I will give them a try this morning and post the findings.

Harris


I tried it and got the following results....

The ONLY code which went more than one notch in volume was the last, 16x code. Hope this info helps...

Also, how does the vol down code get setup?? I see the pattern with volume up, ie +10 equals a doubling of the final extension. Does the work the same way with vol down, modifying the fourth set from the beginning??
Harris

This message was edited by drhb on 06/09/03 16:22.


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