I have a Harmon Kardon AVR520 with a Zone II but there are no discrete codes for Zone II. You have to use an IR extender and the Zone II input on the back of the receiver. I can plug a mini plug into one of the RFX6000 ir out jacks and then the other end into the back of the reciever and it work great. I can control Zone II from my patio using RF converted to IR.

The problem is that the receiver defaults to Zone II control when it receives the volume signal though the RFX 6000. I can still control the main volume of the receiver using IR but not with RF coverted to IR because the RFX6000 always sends it out to the ir out jacks which makes the receiver default to zone II control.

I cannot control the main volume using RF to IR anymore. If I could specify by device when the extender sends the signal out the ir out jacks everything would work fine. Is this possible? If not, my only option is to buy a Harmon Kardon accessory or another RFX6000.

My thought would be to buy another RFX6000 and program the pronto with two devices for your unit. Make one for zone 1 and the other for zone 2. Put zone 1 on channel 1 id 1 For zone 2 put the other rfx on channel 2 id 2, this of course is examples.

Rob

One thing you might try before getting a 2nd extender. Place your extender so that it has clear line of sight to the HK's front panel. That way it'll receive the signal both through the receiver's front panel, and through the jack. It MIGHT work as you want it to.

Otherwise, Robs right. There is no way to tell the extender to "broadcast" or send the signal through the cords. It always does both.

Jim L

Thanks for the quit help. Unfortunately, the receiver defaults to zone II control if it is receiving signal through the cable. I can still control the main functions via IR but my ability to send RF for main controls gets trumped by zone II.

I will probably just get a powermid to control zone II via the ir out on the back of the receiver.

Harmon Kardon could have easily provided the best of both worlds with discret zone II controls.

Set your Zone 1 Commands for "IR" and your ZOne 2 Commands for RF.

Impaqt:

That does work. However, the main purpose for the RFX6000 is so I can control the main volume from the Kitchen or other rooms and also control the patio speaker volume.

I tried the pyramids (radio shack version) and they don't like Harmon Kardon codes when using RF.

I am biting the bullet any buying another RFX6000.

Wouldnt a pair of pyramids cost almost the same as another RF Extender?

Sounds like that ois your best option now.

Impaqt:

I tried the radio shack extenders yesterday. The concept worked. However, the receiver will not pick up anything out of the pronto having to do with the Harmon Kardon reciever. All of the other equipment seems to work fine. If I switch the pronto to IR and point it at the radio shack transmitter it works.

Aren't the powermids the same as the radio shack ones? I find it strange that they would have problems with Harmon Kardon code.

I would love to be able to go this route as the RFX6000 is expensive and often backordered.

When you said that the powermids will do nothing with your receiver. I thought that you tried to point the remote at the receiving powermid and it wouldn't transmitt to the other.

But since you can do that. Then why don't you use that system for zone II. And place the remote for zone II for IR. Im sure there's an output from the powermids, right? If not, then go check the radio shack's out. See if they have an output.

Rob

They are designed to receive IR from a remote, convert, and then transmit to the sister unit in RF. That's why you need a pair. The RF frequencies of the Pronto and the Radio Shack units are different and therefore not compatible (in Pronto RF mode). I suspect anything of this nature that comes in pairs operates this way.

I doubt you'll find any off the shelf unit that will receive RF from the Pronto and then translate to IR except Philips RF extender. Dave Houston, on his web site, does have some plans for homemade stuff that would probably do what you want.

Jim L

Jim, the Powermids use the same frequency as the Pronto (actually it also works in Europe where the frequencies are different , so the Pronto and X10 probably use the same RF devices for their repeaters). (it was first noticed by John when the 6000 just came out)

Hammick, just remember that it is a coincidence that the Pyramids and Pronto are as compatible as they are. The only thing I can think of trying is to try using the Pyramids to teach the Pronto the HK codes (OEM remote->Pyramid ->pyramid ->Pronto)

Great idea Anthony. I should have thought of that myself. I think I am getting too old and stupid for all this high tech stuff.

I will report back on results.

Jim:

The receiver picks up all my RF except the Harmon Kardon for some reason. It is well confirmed that the powermids receive pronto RF.

Hammick,

Yep, you and Anthony are right - my day for brain farts.

Jim L

Anthony:

Learning the code through the powermids did not work. I also tried pasting in the codes in pronto editior and that didn't work either.

I can't understand why these things have a problem with Harmon Kardon stuff. Everything else works just fine. I wonder if I get the actual powermids (instead of the Radio Shack version) if they would work.

I think they are the same.
do you see any difference in response from the base? (i.e. is the base receiving RF but not sending the right IR)

Also, are you sure the device with the HK codes is set to RF