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7.1 9.1 systems?
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Post 1 made on Sunday January 30, 2005 at 15:35
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does anyone know if they are mixing in 7.1 and 9.1 yet? does anyone know when they will start to do this if its not already being done?
Post 2 made on Sunday January 30, 2005 at 22:07
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Define 9.1. Define 7.1.

I have 7 speakers and a sub, is that what you mean? I only have decoders for 6.1 surround, though. You can put in as many speakers as you want, but that doesn't change the sound much.

There is still no planned 7.1 codec other than matrix decoders like DPL IIx. All the companies are working on other types of systems according to rumors and news, more like 10.2.
OP | Post 3 made on Sunday January 30, 2005 at 22:42
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On 01/30/05 22:07 ET, Spiky said...
Define 9.1. Define 7.1.

I have 7 speakers and a sub, is that what you
mean? I only have decoders for 6.1 surround, though.
You can put in as many speakers as you want, but
that doesn't change the sound much.

There is still no planned 7.1 codec other than
matrix decoders like DPL IIx. All the companies
are working on other types of systems according
to rumors and news, more like 10.2.

so the insustry will jump to 10.2?

what im talking about is the sound boards used to mix in 5.1, 6.1 there is a channel for lf, rf,c,rr,lr and sub its mixed down to single digital code (dolby or dts etc)
this stems from the music and video mixing of the movie.

now to have a TRUE 7.1 or 9.1 sound you would need a sound board able to mix with 7.1 , 9.1 channels.
so the sound board would have a
1.left front
2.center
3.right front
4.right front side
5.left front side
6.right rear side
7.left rear side
8.right rear
9.left rear
.1.sub

7.1 would be only a left and right side.

so what im asking is when will the movie industry start to release movies in this format

I use3d to be in the profesional audi field and thats how they mix down the movies, search for a copy of EQ magazine with this type of article. I just want to know if anyone knows when they will start relaseing it so i can tell my clients when it will be availible.
Post 4 made on Monday January 31, 2005 at 14:46
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For home, they are looking at height channels more than anything else, not front and back side channels. I don't think there's a timetable from anyone. Not really sure how many channels there will be.

Don't know about for theater release.
OP | Post 5 made on Monday January 31, 2005 at 20:23
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well all the dvds are stemmed from the movies. do you understand what they do to mix a movie? were only at 5.1 right now, I dont know of ANY dvds in TRUE 7.1 and 9.1 surround.someon correct me if im wrong?

if they start goin with HEIGHT in the mix then there going to have to at the least doubel the fronts and center and maybe the rears but HOW WILL U HEAR the rears if they made lower right back and top right back, the chairs would be in the way. I dont see this happening. I COULD see top right front top right center top left and bottom right bottom left bottom center.The movie audio engineers would have there hands full!!

they could call it 9.1 omni

can anyone chime in on this?? id like to know if 7.1 oor 9.1 is coming out or some other type.
OP | Post 6 made on Sunday February 6, 2005 at 15:38
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61 views 2 replies? come on guys!
Post 7 made on Tuesday February 8, 2005 at 11:50
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As far as I know, discreet 6.1 is all that exists and it's relatively rare to see it. (DTS-ES). Also, I know of no plans for true discreet 7.1 at all.
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Post 8 made on Tuesday February 8, 2005 at 12:13
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Shall we make something up for you, beerock? You are asking about future news, there just isn't any. Dolby and the others play it close to the belt, you won't know something is officially coming out til it is nearly available. Or somebody on the inside feels like getting themselves in trouble.
Post 9 made on Friday February 25, 2005 at 02:36
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I am a engineer and recording studio system design and wiring guy, and most studio aren't even set up for 5.1, most that are aren't even set up right. It's usually a last minute thing they need to do so they throw some speakers on the producers desk. And then other are setup how they should be.

But maybe some of the film studio in CA are thinking of going that way, none of the music studios that I have ever worked in have ever even thought about it.

I just finished 2 multi million dollar jobs last year and neither one even touched surround so from a thought from the inside I don't think you will be seeing anything beyond 5.1 for a while, and you won't see it with SACD and DVD-A or what ever the next great music format will be for a even longer time.

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Post 10 made on Saturday February 26, 2005 at 10:17
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A few years back Dolby Labs did a demo of 10.1 at CEDIA. It was just OKAY, rather than being a WOW thing.

I don't think it's something that's really in the planning.
Post 11 made on Tuesday March 8, 2005 at 18:57
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Sorry I didn't read the thread carefully. but others have been known to take
to surround AV recievers to artifically produce 9.1 plus systems.

This is normally required for long home theaters where the 1st row can;t hear the
rear speakers. thus the pre amp out of the primary AV reciever is input into another prologic reciever to produce and power multiple rear surround speakers to fill in the long length of the room.

They play will the delay to fall between the front and rear of the primary system.

It truly works and sounds great. Basically its not true 9.1 but insures tha everyone gets a true 6.1 feel.

some HTPC have 9.1 sounds card which may do a better job of managing the delays.


hope that helps


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