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Articulating mount rated at 100 lb., 98 lb. television
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Post 1 made on Monday September 11, 2023 at 11:23
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Ah, I know “It Should Be Fine”, but I am recessing a 85 inch frame TV, so I need the Razor articulating mount from Snap. It will not be pulled out, it will not be articulated, but I wish I had about a 50% comfort factor and not a 1.5 pound difference in the mount specs versus the actual TV weight.

Need the Razor for the depth and the height adjustment. Fitting into a recess with not much wiggle room.

Tell me it’s all gonna be OK.
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Post 2 made on Monday September 11, 2023 at 11:29
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Its probably engineered for 150. You will be fine.
Post 3 made on Monday September 11, 2023 at 12:48
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This is our big TV go to, rated at 125 lbs -

[Link: legrandav.com]



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Post 4 made on Monday September 11, 2023 at 12:51
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Chief ts525tu all day

Kanto can also. Yet not as shallow of a mount
Post 5 made on Monday September 11, 2023 at 13:10
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Do you actually need the articulating arm to function as that after installation?

Would something like the Sanus Advanced Tilt bracket work?
[Link: sanus.com]
OP | Post 6 made on Monday September 11, 2023 at 15:35
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On September 11, 2023 at 13:10, BHuey1969 said...
Do you actually need the articulating arm to function as that after installation?

Would something like the Sanus Advanced Tilt bracket work?
[Link: sanus.com]

Almost. Pulling it out for connecting or servicing is important.

When you are trying to position the TV up and down, and you need to get it within a quarter inch, it’s nice to have the Snap bracket, which gives you a hex screw adjustment to raise and lower, plus or minus about 3/4 of an inch.

That looks good otherwise.
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Post 7 made on Tuesday September 12, 2023 at 00:41
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On September 11, 2023 at 11:23, tomciara said...
Ah, I know “It Should Be Fine”, but I am recessing a 85 inch frame TV, so I need the Razor articulating mount from Snap. It will not be pulled out, it will not be articulated, but I wish I had about a 50% comfort factor and not a 1.5 pound difference in the mount specs versus the actual TV weight.

Need the Razor for the depth and the height adjustment. Fitting into a recess with not much wiggle room.

Tell me it’s all gonna be OK.

UL Extensively test mounts at 4x their rated capacity.

The razor is UL Listed.

It will be fine.
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday September 12, 2023 at 23:14
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On September 12, 2023 at 00:41, Impaqt said...
UL Extensively test mounts at 4x their rated capacity.

The razor is UL Listed.

It will be fine.

That is something I did not know. Thank you!

4x though?  Isn’t that hard to wrap your head around?
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Post 9 made on Wednesday September 13, 2023 at 00:00
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On September 12, 2023 at 23:14, tomciara said...
That is something I did not know. Thank you!

4x though?  Isn’t that hard to wrap your head around?

Surprised you didn't know this. This has been UL's requirement for decades for TV mounts.
To be clear however, that 4x rating is for it outright breaking (snapping). The mount will for sure be bending at less than 1/2 that. How and what the mount is anchored to will also determine how much it can take.

But the rating the mount advertises should be solid. Although I remember some people complaining about how much sag the SnapAV mounts had years ago. Not sure if they have improved upon that or not. Seems important however considering the tight tolerances you seem to have on this particular install.
Post 10 made on Wednesday September 13, 2023 at 13:59
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I'm a big fan of the Metra FMXL-75. [Link: metrahometheater.com]
I have used them with a Sony 85 with a Triad MiniLCR3.0 built to the same width and Triad Speakerbar Mounting bracket which is pretty hefty.
No sag. I use them all the time.
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Post 11 made on Wednesday September 13, 2023 at 23:19
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On September 13, 2023 at 00:00, Brad Humphrey said...
Surprised you didn't know this. This has been UL's requirement for decades for TV mounts.
To be clear however, that 4x rating is for it outright breaking (snapping). The mount will for sure be bending at less than 1/2 that. How and what the mount is anchored to will also determine how much it can take.

But the rating the mount advertises should be solid. Although I remember some people complaining about how much sag the SnapAV mounts had years ago. Not sure if they have improved upon that or not. Seems important however considering the tight tolerances you seem to have on this particular install.

To get the UL Listing, a mount rated at 100 lbs must hold 400 lbs without Bending.

The Standard requires a mount to be tested to at least four times its weight rating (if supporting a TV weighing 100 pounds or less), or two times its weight rating plus 200 pounds (if supporting a TV heavier than 100 pounds). The TV mounts must be able to resist cracking, bending or distortion to pass the test.
Post 12 made on Thursday September 14, 2023 at 08:39
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On September 13, 2023 at 23:19, Impaqt said...
To get the UL Listing, a mount rated at 100 lbs must hold 400 lbs without Bending.

The Standard requires a mount to be tested to at least four times its weight rating (if supporting a TV weighing 100 pounds or less), or two times its weight rating plus 200 pounds (if supporting a TV heavier than 100 pounds). The TV mounts must be able to resist cracking, bending or distortion to pass the test.

Do you have a UL document number that specifies the bending/distortion part? I think it might be under UL 1492 but not sure.
I would like to read it but that document cost $500+. I can't find a creditable summary anywhere online.

Because if their is in fact a specification about bending/distortion, I want to know how much. Since this is not a pass/fail like breaking. And I see UL listed mounts that have what I would consider unacceptable bending/distortion under heavy loads. Loads that are however still within their UL listed limits.
Post 13 made on Thursday September 14, 2023 at 20:15
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On September 14, 2023 at 08:39, Brad Humphrey said...
Do you have a UL document number that specifies the bending/distortion part? I think it might be under UL 1492 but not sure.
I would like to read it but that document cost $500+. I can't find a creditable summary anywhere online.

Because if their is in fact a specification about bending/distortion, I want to know how much. Since this is not a pass/fail like breaking. And I see UL listed mounts that have what I would consider unacceptable bending/distortion under heavy loads. Loads that are however still within their UL listed limits.

I dont, But remeber talking to someone at CEDIA one year about UL Listings. 4x without any sign of failure for 24 Hours if what sticks in my memory.


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