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| Topic: | Low volume on landscape audio systems This thread has 24 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 25. |
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| Post 16 made on Monday July 24, 2023 at 16:27 |
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I have done this many times on the CI side and recommended it to dealers since moving to the rep side. There is a little hacktastic to do on the XLR as you need to remove the heads on one side. You also want to make sure you sum at the euroblock connection as I am guessing you want summed to the sub and the sats and most of the DSPs built for the Crown amp will expect the signal to be summed prior to input.
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| Post 17 made on Tuesday July 25, 2023 at 15:22 |
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On July 24, 2023 at 16:27, jrainey said...
I have done this many times on the CI side and recommended it to dealers since moving to the rep side. There is a little hacktastic to do on the XLR as you need to remove the heads on one side. You also want to make sure you sum at the euroblock connection as I am guessing you want summed to the sub and the sats and most of the DSPs built for the Crown amp will expect the signal to be summed prior to input. Care to clarify? Combining pins 2&3 will cancel the signal since pin 3 is inverted. Did you mean connect Pins 1 and Pin 3? That's only going to make the signal work with unbalanced connections, it won't sum the + and - components of the signal.
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| Post 18 made on Thursday July 27, 2023 at 16:36 |
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Summing between the channels ....left into left right into right...then jumpers between Left pin 1 and right pin one ...left pin 2 and right pin 2 etc...
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| Post 19 made on Thursday July 27, 2023 at 18:43 |
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I think that you have a gain issue and Fred's solution would be the best if you have a single ended (RCA) input.
Operating near the top of the Volume control range is not a problem unless the output is too low -- indicating that the system needs more gain. A Volume control taper that results in "loud" at only 25% rotation results in a feeling of "powerful", but the system is difficult to control. Low end system manufacturers are very aware of this and make sure that their system is "powerful" by incorporating very aggressive control tapers. If the users of these systems upgrade to a quality, much more powerful system that has a gentler control taper, the user will often think that the upgrade is less "powerful".
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| Post 20 made on Friday July 28, 2023 at 05:43 |
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On June 9, 2022 at 17:23, Fred Harding said...
I would suggest that you are using consumer level outputs on the Sonos, and the Crown is looking for a pro level input. There's a 14 dB difference between the two. You'll need a line driver to act as a stepping preamp between the Sonos and the Crown. RDL makes a dandy one. Others are out there as well. +1
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| Post 21 made on Friday July 28, 2023 at 15:32 |
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On July 27, 2023 at 16:36, jrainey said...
Summing between the channels ....left into left right into right...then jumpers between Left pin 1 and right pin one ...left pin 2 and right pin 2 etc... For full clarity this is using the ART Cleanbox Pro as the line driver.
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| Post 22 made on Saturday July 29, 2023 at 02:47 |
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I’ve used this one. Output is mono as I had used the CDi1000 for two different outdoor zones. [Link: bhphotovideo.com]Craig
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| Post 23 made on Saturday July 29, 2023 at 09:12 |
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On July 27, 2023 at 16:36, jrainey said...
Summing between the channels ....left into left right into right...then jumpers between Left pin 1 and right pin one ...left pin 2 and right pin 2 etc... That's really not the correct way to increase the level. If you want to sum the signal, something like this would be better. [Link: edcorusa.com]If you want to increase the level, the CleanBox is a good choice.
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| Post 24 made on Saturday July 29, 2023 at 11:23 |
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| Post 25 made on Monday July 31, 2023 at 08:57 |
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On July 29, 2023 at 09:12, highfigh said...
That's really not the correct way to increase the level. If you want to sum the signal, something like this would be better. [Link: edcorusa.com]If you want to increase the level, the CleanBox is a good choice. Understood, This is summing the signal AFTER the Cleanbox Pro.
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