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Who's working on which AV receiver Pronto 2 way script?
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Post 1 made on Thursday October 28, 2010 at 00:34
gopronto
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Ok

So who is writing scripts for AV receivers ?

What make and Model number?


Onkyo, yamaha , dennon , marantz etc. as im looking to but a new AV receiver with IP control capability.

And would like to get a head start on the IP control :)
Pronto still one of the best Wi-Fi Remotes,
www.ikonavs.co.nz and [Link: axiumcontrol.com] Axium Control
Post 2 made on Thursday October 28, 2010 at 01:28
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In general, I find that the published programs lag the market by a year or two. This is a problem because a given model is only on the market for a few months.
Post 3 made on Thursday October 28, 2010 at 05:09
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I've done some work on Denon, Pioneer and Onkyo. I currently only have an Onkyo (1008) in my house. Finishing the Onkyo is pretty high on my list. The Denon module is more complete, but will likely not be finished until some dealer asks me to and supplies one.

If you need to decide which one to buy I would recommend Onkyo, most bang for a buck and pretty complete ip control. They also have models with excellent scalers (HQV in 3008) and support HDMI 1.4 with ARC (Audio Return Channel from TV), DSD (SACD) over HDMI and 3D. 1008 and up also support 4 ohm playback (Denon only the JP models >4xxx).

To be honest, ipcontrol of most receivers is quite easy and often the same as RS232, it's just a lot of work to get all commands in and to fine tune the sending (queueing) and receiving. Also most receivers only support a single active socket, so you'll need a controller or close the socket when using multiple remotes.

Getting started with the ipcontrol is pretty straightforward:
1) Make sure the IP control is enabled in the receiver (powermode, network settings).
2) Get and read protocol specs.
3) Use putty to connect to the raw socket and get some one way commands working.
4) Try to do the same with a synchronous call on the pronto.
5) Try to do the same with a async call on the pronto.
6) Split the code up to functions.
7) Repeat step 3 to 6 for commands with return and parsing.
8) Put all commands from the specs in function calls and parsing functions.
9) Create GUI for feedback and buttons.

If you decide to go the Onkyo route I'm willing to work together on this.

Last edited by sWORDs on October 28, 2010 05:28.
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday October 28, 2010 at 15:41
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On October 28, 2010 at 05:09, sWORDs said...
I've done some work on Denon, Pioneer and Onkyo. I currently only have an Onkyo (1008) in my house. Finishing the Onkyo is pretty high on my list. The Denon module is more complete, but will likely not be finished until some dealer asks me to and supplies one.

If you need to decide which one to buy I would recommend Onkyo, most bang for a buck and pretty complete ip control. They also have models with excellent scalers (HQV in 3008) and support HDMI 1.4 with ARC (Audio Return Channel from TV), DSD (SACD) over HDMI and 3D. 1008 and up also support 4 ohm playback (Denon only the JP models >4xxx).

To be honest, ipcontrol of most receivers is quite easy and often the same as RS232, it's just a lot of work to get all commands in and to fine tune the sending (queueing) and receiving. Also most receivers only support a single active socket, so you'll need a controller or close the socket when using multiple remotes.

Getting started with the ipcontrol is pretty straightforward:
1) Make sure the IP control is enabled in the receiver (powermode, network settings).
2) Get and read protocol specs.
3) Use putty to connect to the raw socket and get some one way commands working.
4) Try to do the same with a synchronous call on the pronto.
5) Try to do the same with a async call on the pronto.
6) Split the code up to functions.
7) Repeat step 3 to 6 for commands with return and parsing.
8) Put all commands from the specs in function calls and parsing functions.
9) Create GUI for feedback and buttons.

If you decide to go the Onkyo route I'm willing to work together on this.

OK went for an integra as they could supply me with the most data :)

Last edited by gopronto on October 28, 2010 23:33.
Pronto still one of the best Wi-Fi Remotes,
www.ikonavs.co.nz and [Link: axiumcontrol.com] Axium Control
Post 5 made on Thursday October 28, 2010 at 16:36
sWORDs
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I wanted the 3008 aswell, but it wasn't available at the time and I really needed a receiver. Besides that I wouldn't use the scaler (all my sources are 1080i or p and the faroudja is one of the best chips in deïnterlacing) and didn't need the power because my speakers (Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus) are 4 Ohm.

I can give you a major head start with Denon receiver and player. Or a really small start with Pioneer.

Please note that Pioneer isn't 4 Ohm compatible, the LX83 is a nice receiver though and finally has an aluminium front. And if you're going with Denon you probably want a 4xxx model which are produced in Japan and have better components (power sup.) and 4 Ohm compatibility.

Which speakers are you going to use? And will you biamp them?
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday October 28, 2010 at 23:34
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I went for the Integra in the end as they could supply me with all the data for , IR,RS232,and IP :)
Pronto still one of the best Wi-Fi Remotes,
www.ikonavs.co.nz and [Link: axiumcontrol.com] Axium Control
Post 7 made on Friday October 29, 2010 at 03:15
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Isn't the Integra protocol equal to Onkyo? Would you like to work together if it is?
Post 8 made on Sunday October 31, 2010 at 14:33
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Onkyo and Integra do use the same protocol. Shame I am no more use than that but I'd be happy to help test as I've recently bought the Onkyo PRSC5508


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