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Volume ramping with Extender
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Post 1 made on Friday March 13, 2009 at 17:08
DHawthorne
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I'm new to the TSU9600, and have one controlling a Denon receiver via a RFX9600 extender. At least, so I thought. Everything was working perfectly, until I closed my cabinet doors. It turns out, pressing and holding the volume up and down buttons only repeats the IR out of the TSU itself; when it's coming from the extender, it only pulses once per button press. I'm guessing I have to write a script to overcome this, but could use some guidance on how to go about that. I'm a programmer by trade, but I'm just not familiar enough with this unit, and I find the documentation and guidlines to be somewhat lacking from Philips.
Dave H
Post 2 made on Friday March 13, 2009 at 17:44
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That shouldn't be the case. I control volume on several devices via the RFX and have no problems with keeping the button pressed. You certainly don't need to write a script to overcome this.

It suggests there might be some issue with your code - particularly the repeating part.

Might be worth a search - I know there are posts about IR codes and repeating patterns.
Dave
Post 3 made on Friday March 13, 2009 at 19:56
Lyndel McGee
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Volume control with script may be sloppier and require more work than you will likely want, especially if you do not know javascript. For sure, if you are doing widget.executeActions() to send IR codes repeatedly, it will be choppier.

Please post the IR code data you are using (assuming you learned the codes) or the actual component in the database that you use for your Activity.
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Post 4 made on Friday March 13, 2009 at 20:36
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It definitely should work. Check that the code is OK. Also, adjusting duration often fixes this.
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Post 5 made on Saturday March 14, 2009 at 11:31
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Volume control through the extender does work, but you have to make sure the command is repeated (this is an option in PEP). When repeated, the command will be constantly repeated, while volume up or down is pressed. Why wouldn`t you control the Denon with rs232? This is much easier and more reliable.
Post 6 made on Saturday March 14, 2009 at 12:14
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Wilbert,

I presume you are discussing the IR code format as well as making sure that in the actionlist for the Volume Buttons, there is ONLY a single Item. An IR Code or a Link to another button that contains the IR code.
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Post 7 made on Saturday March 14, 2009 at 14:47
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Lyndel,

You're right. RS232 control (which I`m using) has different options. For IR it should be the duration. Volume code could be I major problem (in my case) with Denon, if it is learned yourself. I did it a few times, and it keeps giving different IR codes in PEP. In the Philips database are some models from Denon from which I know should work.
Post 8 made on Saturday March 14, 2009 at 16:17
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I was also wondering if the user had taken codes from one of the AVR-5800 CCF files that is in the classic pronto files section. Some of those codes were simply bad encodes and only specified one-shot (not repeating) codes.

The other issue is possibly if there is more than one action in the action list (or linked action list) which, makes the button a "macro" and therefore, no IR code will ever be repeated except possibly if the 'Duration' is adjusted to a long value (this would need to be tested).
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OP | Post 9 made on Saturday March 14, 2009 at 22:02
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I'm using the IR from the database that came with PEP for this receiver. I'm not using RS-232 because I have already far exceeded the time budget for this job, and was hoping for a quick "get it working" solution.

Where is the repeat option in PEP? I can't find it ... and remember, I did say it works fine from the remote itself, just not from the extender, so it's not a malformed or badly captured code.
Dave H
Post 10 made on Sunday March 15, 2009 at 00:03
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The repeat option is part of the IR code itself, not part of PEP. As Lyndel said, if you post the IR code then we can check that it is a repeating code.

But, as the repeat works using the remote itself, it presumably is a repeating code. So, that leaves the duration as probable issue, as Peter said.

Lyndel's other points are all possibilities as well.
Post 11 made on Sunday March 15, 2009 at 01:25
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There is already an existing PS on Pronto's site for the AVR3806. How much work is needed to adapt that to your receiver?

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Post 12 made on Sunday March 15, 2009 at 14:30
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If you are using PEPv2, you should consider using the database from Only One Remote as posted on Philips site or the Only One Remote site.
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OP | Post 13 made on Monday March 16, 2009 at 08:37
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For one, it's an AVR 5800, and though the differences are minor, they exist and would need to be hand-entered. For two, my employer has absolutely forbidden me to spend any more time on the job than what is needed to get the bugs out (which, as it stands, is simply two buttons ... volume up and volume down).

I would absolutely love to do it "right," but this isn't a hobby situation, and though I can sneak a few things in, I can't sneak a few extra hours in without justifying them, and it's hard to justify, "well, I was just doing what you explicitly told me not to."
Dave H
OP | Post 14 made on Monday March 16, 2009 at 08:44
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On March 15, 2009 at 00:03, Guy Palmer said...
The repeat option is part of the IR code itself, not part of PEP. As Lyndel said, if you post the IR code then we can check that it is a repeating code.

But, as the repeat works using the remote itself, it presumably is a repeating code. So, that leaves the duration as probable issue, as Peter said.

Lyndel's other points are all possibilities as well.

I can't post the IR. All I get in the database window is "DATABASE CODE."

I suppose I can try overriding this and re-capturing it for these buttons. It still bugs the heck out of me that it works from the remote just fine, but not the extender.
Dave H
OP | Post 15 made on Monday March 16, 2009 at 08:49
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On March 14, 2009 at 16:17, Lyndel McGee said...
The other issue is possibly if there is more than one action in the action list (or linked action list) which, makes the button a "macro" and therefore, no IR code will ever be repeated except possibly if the 'Duration' is adjusted to a long value (this would need to be tested).

Bingo! In my haste to get this working, I used a template for my hidden functions page that by default had a sound associated with each button, and neglected to remove the sound when I added the actual function.

I'll give this a try when I'm back on site in the next day or two, thanks much, I have a good feeling this is the issue.
Dave H


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