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how to create an rcc file
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Post 1 made on Friday August 28, 2009 at 22:22
ethielr
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Good evening everyone, I have a few questions for the experts of this awesome site.

1. I would like to create my own database of all my equipments. how can I do this?
I want to do it like the pre-programmed database in the 3000 mx editor

2. is there any software I can do this?
3. can i do this in the 3000 mx editor? if so, How?

for example;

Hitachi Tv C50-xxxx and the datadase

can anybody help me with this? Thanks in advance

Ethiel
Post 2 made on Saturday August 29, 2009 at 08:01
vbova27
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You have some choices - you can create in importable .mxg file that can be used by the universal browser and make one for every piece of equipment or by brand/model.

You can also buy an IR learner from a third party company and start learning in your own IR codes. You could save the information whatever way you like wth the intent to load by Hex codes.

Or, You can create na .rcc for every brand and place all the underlying models within.

Or, you can contact URC to see if the IR code guys there will be willing to work with you on implementing your files into the URC database.
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday August 29, 2009 at 09:00
ethielr
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Thank you for your help Vbova 27. Please forgive my ignorance but, How can create in importable .mxg file. I have no clue. Do I need a software to to this? Which one?

and, what do you mean a na.rcc? how can I do this? Please advise.

Thanks
Post 4 made on Sunday August 30, 2009 at 19:00
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For the purpose of creating an .mxg file (which isrecognized by the universal browser for all the remotes) I use the MX-900 software.

Create a device for your DB, (for example Denon Receiver AVR-2308CI). After you learn in the codes you can click on the device in the tree and click 'export'. Save the device as - Audio_Denon_AVR-2308CI. Use this naming convention for all your devices. Or, create an MX-900 file for every device - Audio, DVD, CABLE, SAT, etc.

Personally I would not use URC for the purposes of creating my own library. Until it's able to allow you to view the Hex code of at LEAST learned codes (I understand why not for the propriertary codes) it's not flexibile enough.
I would also like to see them improve the way you import hex codes - I don't like the method of saving the code in the Univ browser and then dragging it to the app - would like a way to do it quicker.

One idea would have a hex icon in the toolbar for ever button. By pressing the button you want to import hex for, then pressing hex would give you th eability to cut and paste the text directly to the button rather than have to bring it to the browswer than over to the button. By no means would this mean getting rid of the Univ browser, this would just be an added feature since the browswer has multiple purposes.

Vincent
OP | Post 5 made on Monday August 31, 2009 at 12:43
ethielr
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Thank you Vincent for all your help. Let me ask you, you said " Personally I would not use URC for the purposes of creating my own library" Is there another way to create a database? What software do you recommend?

Thanks

Ethiel
Post 6 made on Monday August 31, 2009 at 18:49
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If you want to do this within the MX3000 editor, it is easily possible. If you go to TOOLS>Make My IR DB, it'll allow you to make a list of all the devices that you commonly use, then when you open the IR DB Manager there's a series of Radio Buttons. Select the one that says "My IR DB" and all those devices that you put in that list will be there.
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OP | Post 7 made on Monday August 31, 2009 at 21:08
ethielr
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Hi KC, I'm trying to do what you explained but, when I open tool>make my IR, it only let me choose from the pre-programed database. I can not add my personal one. Am I missing something?
Post 8 made on Monday August 31, 2009 at 22:30
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On August 31, 2009 at 21:08, ethielr said...
Hi KC, I'm trying to do what you explained but, when I open tool>make my IR, it only let me choose from the pre-programed database. I can not add my personal one. Am I missing something?

I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood what your trying to do. I thought you want to create your OWN database with models that may or may not be in URC's database. KC's method is a good one if your only creating what is already in URC's database.

My methods apply if you want to ccreate an exclusive set of devices and codes for use with URC remotes. That process requires learning or gathering from other companies.

Vincent
OP | Post 9 made on Tuesday September 1, 2009 at 06:45
ethielr
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You did not misunderstood Vincent. I want to create my own database with models that may or may not be in URC's database. Let me ask you, you said " Personally I would not use URC for the purposes of creating my own library" Is there another way to create a database? What software do you recommend?

Thanks

Ethiel
Post 10 made on Tuesday September 1, 2009 at 21:09
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Pardon me, but you may be asking for details regarding how to do something that isn't the best thing for you to do. Let's examine why you want to do what you propose.

May I ask you to back up one step, and ask you
a) why do you want to create this database? What are you going to use this database for?
b) why did you choose Universal Remote models to do this with?

I ask because I have programmed several brands of remote, and I carry an almost ten year old Pronto TS1000 with me for learning the commands of new equipment. Why? Because it works every time.

I learned the software for the Pronto a long time ago, so that's not an issue. It's possible to view the commands as Pronto hex (what vbova27 mentions in Post 4). Hex commands thus viewed can be copied and pasted into the programming software of some brands, and the files created by the Pronto can be imported into other software.

It would help to know what your question was before you chose Universal as a brand, and the whole scope of what you are trying to do.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday September 2, 2009 at 07:15
ethielr
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Hi Ernie, I want to create my own database to make it easy for me when I'm programming my system. I chose URC because the remote I bought is the MX 3000. I don't need to use URC software to create the database. I need some kind of software to create any IR database that ultimately work with my remote. Do you have something in mind? What software should I use. Please advice. Thanks

Ethiel
Post 12 made on Wednesday September 2, 2009 at 15:41
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There are a variety of products out there for capturing and creating an IR code from a remote and storing in ala database. Ernie's tool is the Pronto remote which has a great convenience of a gigantic user base as well as easy to import (and more important export) IR codes. Personally, I don't think remotes are a great way to lean IR codes - I feel like a device dedicated to learning IR codes is the way to go. That is why I love my RTI and Nuvo learner. They are capable of really "listening" to the IR code when it learns in. It really is the way to go. That is not to say a remote is unreliable - I wouldn't go that far - but it is definately more prone to outside interference and issues.

Since URC can read in .ccf and .mxg, rcc, etc. using the universal browswer there is no wrong answer for you. Do whateverproves to be most reliable. If that means running out and buying a pronto for the sake of learning, it's worth it. If it means using only URC as a means of learning, then fine. Just keep in mind that you can't see hex data in URC files. That may change one day, but right now it's good for importing and not exporting unless your strictly using URC remotes.
OP | Post 13 made on Thursday September 3, 2009 at 06:48
ethielr
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Vincent, Where can I get a RTI learner and how much does it cost? Can I get it online?
Post 14 made on Thursday September 3, 2009 at 09:39
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On September 3, 2009 at 06:48, ethielr said...
Vincent, Where can I get a RTI learner and how much does it cost? Can I get it online?

You get one when you become a RTI dealer.
"Quality isn't expensive, it's Priceless!"
OP | Post 15 made on Sunday September 6, 2009 at 08:25
ethielr
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Where Can I get an IR code reader? Can you recommend one? Thanks
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