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Altering an animated gif?
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Post 1 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 17:30
flandon
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How do I do it?
Photoshop only loads one layer.

I just want to change the size from mx3000 to mx980.
ie 320x240 to 240x320.

I'm trying to get the oldschool black and white countdown on the mx980.

thanks
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Post 2 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 19:03
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What version of PS are you using? Up to CS2, ImageReady was bundled with PS. IR will show a slide with all the frames and allow you to make changes to animated GIFs. As I recall, there is a link to IR at the bottom of the toolbar. If you open the file in PS, then use the link, it will open the file in IR. Or you can just open the file in IR.

If it's CS3, what version do you have?
Post 3 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 19:24
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The real problem is that you can't just resize a 320 x 240 image to 240 x 320. You'd end up with a goofy looking oval countdown. Beyond that, PhotoShop is a great photo editor, but I find it to be clumsy at best for editing animations.

On the MX-980 screen, a significant portion of the screen goes unused for a countdown. With a little creative editing, you can get a countdown to appear as though it's a full-screen animation, but still run at full speed.

Here's a sample of what you can make by compositing two images. Note that topmost animationthis is just a sample, and will run slow as molasses on the actual MX-980:





Note: My sample here is actually running a bit fast, but after I posted it, I got lazy and didn't want to go back and slow it down. On the remote, the process below results in an animation that runs very close to one sweep per second.


To create the same visual effect on the MX-980, you separate the parts of the image that actually change from the parts that stay the same. This GREATLY reduces the file size, because the only way to make animations run at full speed on the MX-980 is to save them with no inter-frame compression.

So, to put the animation on the 980, take this background and place it as an image at the back of the page:






Then, take this animated GIF and center it on the background (which is pretty easy, since the whole thing is one big alignment marker):






Next, be sure to set your GIF animation setting to "Animate Once."

There you go! Easy as pie!

(And yes, if you want this version, feel free to right click and save the target files to your own computer.)

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OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 20:02
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I have CS3 but never even used imageready. Im on it.

Darnitol, That is good info but that gif is defalt on the MX980 editor. Ie i already have it.


Thanks ill post the oldschool one when i alter it.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 20:21
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On December 4, 2007 at 20:02, flandon said...
I have CS3 but never even used imageready. Im on it.

Darnitol, That is good info but that gif is defalt on
the MX980 editor. Ie i already have it.

Thanks ill post the oldschool one when i alter it.

ImageReady is not included in CS3. There isn't support for editing an animated GIF in CS3. Lucky for you, there is a hack. http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3c051d0a

I haven't tried it yet, so I can't vouch for the authenticity.
Post 6 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 21:24
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Actually, this isn't the animation that comes in MX980 editor. The one in the editor does a sweep, but not a countdown. But yes, I totally understand the desire to have the "old school" version. It's just not going to be as simple as stretching 320x240 down to 240x320. You'll get this:



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Post 7 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 22:41
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Play with this and let us know if it works.

Lee

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Post 8 made on Tuesday December 4, 2007 at 23:10
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here are some youtube countdowns. I talked to Dale about how to convert the HTML into a .gif, but its complaticated. But I'm sure there is some geeks out there who could meet the challange.


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OP | Post 9 made on Wednesday December 5, 2007 at 15:10
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I did it but its 240x180

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Post 10 made on Wednesday December 5, 2007 at 15:25
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Flandon:

The nice thing about the way you scaled it is that the file size will be much smaller. Give the animation a try on the remote itself. If it runs too slowly, let me know and I can probably get it to run at full speed (though doing so will increase the file size).

Good work!

Dale
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OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday December 5, 2007 at 15:34
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Now i cut it down because my macros dont take 15 seconds

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I had white back ground on the top and bottom of the image when centered so i created two buttons with black fill and the whole page was dark other than the count down.
Flandon the mighty Dragon Fisher
Post 12 made on Thursday December 6, 2007 at 11:50
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Here's another countdown:



This 200X200 pixel animated GIF runs through all digits from 9 down to 1 and terminates with a "start" message. It has too many frames to fit the MX-3000, but it can be reduced in size with a GIF editor which supports deleting frames. (Microsoft's Image Composer includes the Microsoft GIF Animator and can do the job easily.)

The background color is saturated blue, so the countdown can be placed seamlessly on a blue background with room for text or graphics at the sides.
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Post 13 made on Monday February 25, 2008 at 18:57
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I am very sorry to bring back an old post form a few months back, but I have spent hours with trying to get some gif files to work well for me. What is the limitation with the MX-3000 in regards to maintaining acceptable performance? I read file size and fames, but what would be a general rule I should use as acceptable metrics. Also, Dale mentioned that he could speed up a gif but the file size would increase? Ok, to break it down, I have the following questions.

1)What should I aim for when creating a gif?
a.File size?
b.Max # of frames
2)Any recommend software for making the animation? (*Note: I am using transparent backgrounds in my animations by outputting .png frames from Photoshop (ver 6)

Thank you very much for any info you can share!

Post 14 made on Tuesday February 26, 2008 at 00:35
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Here is an example of the issue I am having. I made this gif as “little” as I could but even if I open a blank config with just one page and one button, this runs VERY slow.







Post 15 made on Wednesday February 27, 2008 at 12:51
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Well looks like I found an answer on my own. I created this in PS then made the gif in IR. IR sets a default delay to 0. By just adding any delay even 0.1 sec, the problem goes away. I guess the MX3000 does not know what to do without a delay and this causes extra processing usage. Just sucks it took me 3 days and several apps to figure this out.


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