In 2004 the website promoting the new line of programmable remotes was all about the editor, being able to download and use it before you ever purchased a remote. Browsing the database to see if your components were there, etc.

And there was a huge emphasis on the live update to be sure your remote would not become obsolete. Now that I am adding three bleeding edge components to my home theater, I have no live update. I might as well go back to my Harman Kardon TC1000 or my Madrigal IRIQ and learn all the buttons from three remotes.

Anyone who thinks an MX850 is complex is just plain simple themselves. It is about as easy as any piece of consumer electronics gets. If you want a bit of complexity in remote programming go over to the JP1 site for a while. And those are all hobbyists. Not a custom installer among them. Talk about arrogant.