Minus the sarcasm, that was all common knowledge. Where do you think this website started with discrete codes...??? All I was asking was if the APEX DVD players have discrete power commands. A simple yes or no would have done. Plus, you are guessing that I am looking for a pre-programmed remote control. I have a Pronto, just for your information.

You replied "you'd be hard up trying to find a remote
that would say bo to it, let alone be
discrete." Is that a complete sentence? I don't consider myself an "english" god, but damn is that eubonics?