The first clue should have been when the owner filed bankruptcy and fled the country with all the money, then they nailed him in Israel. That was back in the 80's. My recommendation for A/V needs is J&R Music World (www.jandr.com) they will match any price and go way below cost even just to keep you as a customer. I saved 350 dollars on my Onkyo 787 list price $999.99, my price $650. And that was when the unit first came out. TIP: You have to have prices to compare otherwise they dont really barter much.