Daniel,

The two I mentioned above appear to. If I can believe what I have read as I have yet to see one in person. And don't know if I could hear the fan if I did. One of the models even metioned the word fan in plural !!!

They both are brand new units but could still be a couple years old in technology. Maybe best to describe them as New old stock.

I hope the fans are a thing of the past as they are a moving part that can go bad.

Anway now I am leaning towards the Dell 42 inch HD that Dell just started selling.

Not sure who makes it or how good the quality of it is, But the price is right and it has a lot of component I/O built in as well as two tuners one being an HD tuner.

-Don B