Problem solved! And I found it on my own! Videotek.com sells a "DVD/VHS Copy Enhancer" i.e. Macrovision clarifier. This little device has RCA and S-video in and outs to allow you to hook up vcr to vcr or dvd to vcr! Eliminates that damn macrovision and other copy protecting encoding. I got it and it works perfectly. Only costs $39.95 on their site while most other web sites sell for over $70. Wish I had found it a long time ago because I could have copyied alot more rented movies for my own library. Especially since I am renting DVDs at Hastings for as little as $0.99!