Thank you very much that fixed the problem ... extremely useful indeed. Just one thing however, the skip backwards/forwards are inverted. For example if you put skip backwards on a button that looks like << it will actually go forwards, and if you put skip forwards on a button that looks like >> it actually goes backwards. They are also slightly mis-labled. Its really Skip forwards/Pg Down and Skip Backwards / Page Up. Just changing the names to be correct makes everything good. Do you want to correct it in your DB or should I, and repost it here?