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Who would be interested in more Contact Closure inputs?
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Post 1 made on Thursday December 3, 2009 at 21:12
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I have a way to add 24 Contact Closures to an XP-8 via RS-232 using the System Macro Drivers. This device would be either always open or always closed on ALL 24 ports. This device would send a System Macro serial string to the XP-8 once a contact is opened or closed. Right now the only way to add ANY additional contact closure inputs would be to add an additional XP-8. What would you guys pay for this capability?

So what do you guys think?
Post 2 made on Friday December 4, 2009 at 01:45
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How about $149.00

[Link: vetra.com]
OP | Post 3 made on Friday December 4, 2009 at 04:24
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On December 4, 2009 at 01:45, select said...
How about $149.00

[Link: vetra.com]

Yes but it doesn't talk to RTI... The Vetra command strings are not recognized by RTI... Remember, right now the only way to create a Custom RS-232 command that is recognized by an XP-8 is to use the XP-8 Macro Triggers Driver...
Post 4 made on Friday December 4, 2009 at 11:49
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Really? How about 2 RCM12's? They have been out for a while now.
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So the only way to add more CC's to an XP-8 is not to add another XP-8.
"You can't fix stupid."
OP | Post 5 made on Friday December 4, 2009 at 12:14
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On December 4, 2009 at 11:49, anyhomeneeds said...
Really? How about 2 RCM12's? They have been out for a while now.
rcm12
So the only way to add more CC's to an XP-8 is not to add another XP-8.

This is a Relay Control Module not a Contact Sense module... I've talked to Brett with RTI several times... If RTI made it I wouldn't be entertaining a 3rd party product... What my main uses for this product is to monitor contact closure for Doors... Until RTI releases 2-way Drivers for the Honeywell Vista board and GE Concord units we have no way of monitoring more than 8 Doors, Windows or triggering events based on contact closures without adding another XP-8.
Post 6 made on Friday December 4, 2009 at 17:35
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On December 4, 2009 at 12:14, rtiuser said...
Until RTI releases 2-way Drivers for the Honeywell Vista board and GE Concord units we have no way of monitoring more than 8 Doors, Windows or triggering events based on contact closures without adding another XP-8.

You almost answered your own question. You can easily use the DSC security driver to do what you are asking and accomodate up to 64 inputs/zones.
Post 7 made on Friday December 4, 2009 at 21:17
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you can also do PCM-8 with sense modules, although that's a little clunky
OP | Post 8 made on Friday December 4, 2009 at 23:17
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On December 4, 2009 at 21:17, jimstolz76 said...
you can also do PCM-8 with sense modules, although that's a little clunky

Not to mention that it gets expensive... 299.00 for the PCM-8 and 79.00 for each sense module...

If we could add more contact closure sense inputs for a good price... Maybe the cost of a PCM-8 we could get pretty creative with contact closures... There are some cool contact closure products out there...
Post 9 made on Saturday December 5, 2009 at 12:32
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I guess I could se wanting that in a very rare case. However I can't say I have ever needed that many. I believe that those normally belong on the security panel.
OP | Post 10 made on Saturday December 5, 2009 at 13:41
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On December 5, 2009 at 12:32, tpowers said...
I guess I could se wanting that in a very rare case. However I can't say I have ever needed that many. I believe that those normally belong on the security panel.

I do agree... But there are times when WE don't service the security side of the residence/business... And I've learned that if I don't service the security I don't touch anything associated with the security unless I have a very accommodating security company... For example I'm working on a job right now that the security company is SOOOOO black and white and anything that is out of the box my client has to sign waivers...
Post 11 made on Saturday December 5, 2009 at 15:20
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We all appreciate the usefulness of such a product, but don’t you think you should get to the point of the post. Enough with the “my toy is better than yours”.

Do you have it and how much?
OP | Post 12 made on Saturday December 5, 2009 at 15:51
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On December 5, 2009 at 15:20, select said...
We all appreciate the usefulness of such a product, but don’t you think you should get to the point of the post. Enough with the “my toy is better than yours”.

Do you have it and how much?

Too funny... Ok, first I'm not saying that my toy is better... What my original post asked, that NO one can seem to answer, IS:

"What would you guys pay for this capability? So what do you guys think?"

Do I have it... No. Could I have it in a week... YES.. I'm researching to determine if it's worth the investment ($$) and time for larger quantities.. Is it worth 299.00 like the other expansion modules? What would you pay for this option?
Post 13 made on Sunday December 6, 2009 at 14:14
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On December 5, 2009 at 15:51, rtiuser said...
Is it worth 299.00 like the other expansion modules? What would you pay for this option?

You can do it with DSC parts for about $275 retail for 24 zones/inputs like you mentioned or about $700 for 64 zones/inputs. This would include main panel, IT-100(rs232 module) and required zone expanders. It wouldn't include door switches and wiring which of course would be the same regardless of what input method you use.

BTW there is actually margin in those numbers.
Post 14 made on Monday December 7, 2009 at 13:40
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On December 4, 2009 at 04:24, rtiuser said...
Yes but it doesn't talk to RTI... The Vetra command strings are not recognized by RTI... Remember, right now the only way to create a Custom RS-232 command that is recognized by an XP-8 is to use the XP-8 Macro Triggers Driver...

Talked with them and they can change the rs232 codes sent to what ever we want, so yes it will talk to a XP-8.


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