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TOTALLY CONFUSED! Need Receiver!
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Post 1 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 17:47
jarhead13
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Someone PLEASE help! First I apologize for being completely ignorant to so much of the lingo and for interupting probably much more interesting conversation.

I am looking to replace my Sony DE885(?) - something blew and would just assume upgrade. I am looking for probably a higher quality receiver - maybe 500 - $800. Now - please don't laugh if I cannot get a "quality" receiver for this much - but perhaps someone can lead me down the right path.

I know I'd like some of the most up to date movie sound stuff (I have heard THX?). But not totally necessary if there are things that make it sound awesome. Currently I have Cerwin Vega speakers (nothing fancy - and will probably upgrade next year). I would like the 2 Zone thing. 7.1 is not necessary. I have heard of a "mic" that you can set in the view area and the system will automatically adjust the sound (?).

Most of all - create quality & sound. Both music and movies.

Am I asking for too much in my price range? One suggestion someone did give me was Onkyo **??702 (not sure).
Post 2 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 20:23
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You need the Yamaha RX-V1500 Its going to cost you $800. It has the YPAO 'mic' thingy to set up for room acoustics. It has 7.1. It offers zone 2 powered and zone 3 with an amp. It also has full discrete IR codes. Its probably exactly what your looking for.

The Cerwins are probably what caused your old reciever to smoke. They have very low impedances which causes the internal amps to work overtime.

[Link: yamaha.com]

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OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 20:47
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THANKS!!!

Yeah - the receiver going was a shock! I actually was RIGHT after I adjust the rear level higher - It POPPED!! It still "clicks" like it is going on - and a couple of the lights come on - but the main display and everything else is dead! Are there internal fuses?

Anyway - That Yamaha looks GREAT! So the Onkyo is NOT the way to go then I guess. Is there another Yamaha or close to compareable - that is maybe the next step down? If so, what am I losing?

Since these speakers might be my trouble - I'd hate to ruin another receiver! Perhaps I should just take the step now. Any suggestions on a good bang for the buck?

Thanks again!
Post 4 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 21:27
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there is a new model to replace the RXV750. The nice thing with the 1500 is you can power a second zone - like speakers in the master or on the deck - without needing a separate amp. DONT USE "B" on the reciever. The 750 will give you zone 2 output but you'll need an amp. It will give you the YPAO (room correction mic" though. If you are going to buy new speakers too, you may be able to get some type of discount - maybe 10 or 15% if you buy it all at once.

what do you intend for zone 2. that may help shed some light on exactly what model fits your bill
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Post 5 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 22:42
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You might want to check out the Integra 5.5 at www.integrahometheater.com
For around $600, it has a lot of features and performance for the money.
Just for the record, $600 IS a lot of money, it just won't buy much anymore !!!
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OP | Post 6 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 08:18
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Zone 2 is for the deck or basement (probably interchangeable - depending on season). Lots of GREAT info. I am leaning towards the 1500. Just that it is at the top of the $$ range. But might have to bit the bullet.

Pilgram - I agree - it is a lot of $$ - just doesn,t go as far.

So - all this said - any suggestion on some speakers? As I said - no sense in taking a chance at investing in a quality receiver - just to have these Cerwin Vegas do the same thing!!

Do these things have internal fuses that might have blow'n? Or is it a complete repair by a professional. (speaking of the old receiver of coure). You know how it is - gotta justify to the wife why I "need" this new stuff.

This message was edited by jarhead13 on 02/10/05 08:51 ET.
Post 7 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 08:23
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Denon AVR885. Component Video Upconversion, 7.1, Zone 2 amplifier, Discrete IR, Rear IR, RS232, 12v Trigger, 125 x6 into 6 ohms, Hamerhead 32-bit DSP, tons of inputs and outputs. Great receiver for only 649.95.

The Denon AVR985 has all of teh above plus alpha 24 processing, and the mic setup for 899.95

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Post 8 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 11:10
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Pioneer VSX-1014. Very good sound, has the setup mic, THX Select, 2nd zone capable (using internal amps), component video upconversion, and is about $600. We have used alot of these with great success.
Post 9 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 12:54
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The 1500 (as well as the Denon) are some of the best all around that we have set up. Nice thing about the Yamaha (and I think the Denon) is that it is spec'd to perform well even at 4 ohms (Cerwins are either at 4 or 6). Sony is not stable at 4 ohms. Primarily why it blew (secondly, "its a sony").

If price is an issue, the Yamaha RX-V650 is quite amazing for the price ($550). This pretty much has everything the 1500 does minus the THX and few watts of power. There are some other chrome gas pedals on the 1500 if you have bad acoustics (tile floors, lots of windows)

We just replaced a 620 with the 650 in our own HT just this past week. If the budget permitted we would opt for the 1500. You know, shoes for the kids etc. But I am very pleased with the upgrade. Major and striking improvement in soundfield quality.

Has the ypao as well for people that don't want to fuss with manual setup.

Don't fix the Sony, they do make decent anchors for a very light boat or buoey marker (if you add a few rocks).
Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er..
OP | Post 10 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 15:29
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So .... are the speakers okay to keep? Or can I get some good bang for the buck for 500 - 1000 ($)?? I'd like to save the money for now, but anything I can do to convince the wife "we really 'need' them" - you know the deal!

Does the 650 have the multi room? What's the diff btw 650 & 750? Does 750 have THX?

I understand that fixing the Sony isn't worth it - but if it "is" a fuse (if there is such thing with these) - I can mysteriously discover that after I get the new set up - and just use it in the garage or basement!
Post 11 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 15:39
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On 02/10/05 15:29 ET, jarhead13 said...
I understand that fixing the Sony isn't worth
it - but if it "is" a fuse (if there is such thing
with these) - I can mysteriously discover that
after I get the new set up - and just use it in
the garage or basement!

You get it, you'll be just fine. ;-)
OP | Post 12 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 16:20
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So..there is an internal fuse that I can fix?

Again - any recommendations on speakers? Or keep the CV's?
Post 13 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 19:22
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i would buy new speakers if money permits. if you need to wait, buy a good reciever, be sure to set it up for speakers under 8 ohms (setup menu) and save a few bucks and get new speakers at a later date. your better off buying a really nice pieces one at atime instead of buying a bunch of marginal stuff all at once
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Post 14 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 20:49
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On 02/10/05 19:22 ET, oex said...
your better off buying a really
nice pieces one at atime instead of buying a bunch
of marginal stuff all at once

I couldn't agree more !
Every day is a good day.......some are just better than others!

Proud to say that my property is protected by a high speed wireless device!
Post 15 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 23:22
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On 02/10/05 15:29 ET, jarhead13 said...
Does the 650 have the multi room? What's the
diff btw 650 & 750? Does 750 have THX?

Yes (with z2 amp), not much and I don't think so.
Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er..
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