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Post 691 made on Monday September 4, 2006 at 12:55
ontariocraig
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Thanks Yaamon, based on that, and the very reasonable price, I think I'll pick one up tomorrow. Im not expecting Channel Master, but sourcecc do have a good return policy, so I guess if it turns out to be really terrible I can always return it.
Post 692 made on Monday September 4, 2006 at 18:26
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On September 4, 2006 at 12:55, ontariocraig said...
Thanks Yaamon, based on that, and the very reasonable
price, I think I'll pick one up tomorrow. Im not expecting
Channel Master, but sourcecc do have a good return policy,
so I guess if it turns out to be really terrible I can
always return it.

Yes with that return policy you cannot beat that. :)
Post 693 made on Tuesday September 5, 2006 at 16:06
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On September 4, 2006 at 11:40, ontariocraig said...
Anyone have any experience with the radioshack antenna
rotor ? They're on sale right now, (sourcecc) Im thinking
about adding one to my set up, maybe even pick up the
rochester signals with one of those ?

Iíve had my rat shack rotor for over a year now; have not had any problem with it
And I do get Rochester if the atmosphere conditions are right (clear nightís) but Iím a little closer than you are
I live on the opposite side of the pond than you
Post 694 made on Tuesday September 5, 2006 at 23:44
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Thanks Hogger, a year eh ? - that's reassuring, last thing I want is for it fail in the middle of January with the antenna pointing the wrong way !

I bought one and installed it today, seems to work OK, course I'll be worried now next time we have some major wind... I often get the Rochester channels when weather conditions are "right" (usually hot humid summer evenings) even with my antenna pointed firmly toward Buffalo, I was thinking I might see them a little more often now that I can easily point my antenna that way....time will tell.
OP | Post 695 made on Wednesday September 6, 2006 at 02:53
Daniel Tonks
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Just a note that freezing moisture does tend to lock mine (Channel Master) up in the dead of winter - of course that works both ways, it both stops it from blowing off direction (the gears aren't designed to keep the antenna locked in gale forces, but instead allow it to rotate somewhat to reduce strain), but can also prevent me from making adjustments.

Usually I find a little back-and-forth motion will get it moving again, though.
Post 696 made on Wednesday September 6, 2006 at 12:54
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Another valuable tip - thanks Daniel. I'll take extra care especially when we have freezing rain !

previously I had antenna "focused" for reliable reception of WGRZ, (which for me is reliable) and for the most part, all other stations, from other towers also came in reliably despite being anywhere from 2 to 30 degrees off ! The exception was SunTV, which was intermittent in certain weather conditions and since Fox changed their transmitter, I also lost that a couple of times (albeit briefly, but I'd hate losing it during 24)

I've now got my rotor installed I can fine tune to towers as/when needed, now
I've found that for the most part, as expected, I can lock it at a few degrees SW in between the various towers and *everything* comes in solid, in the hi 80s to 100% on the signal meter. Now I have the flexibility to easily finetune the antenna a few degrees either way in unfavorable weather conditions as needed.

Of course, all you rotor owners already know all this !
Post 697 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 09:29
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On September 6, 2006 at 02:53, Daniel Tonks said...
Just a note that freezing moisture does tend to lock mine
(Channel Master) up in the dead of winter - of course
that works both ways, it both stops it from blowing off
direction (the gears aren't designed to keep the antenna
locked in gale forces, but instead allow it to rotate
somewhat to reduce strain), but can also prevent me from
making adjustments.

Usually I find a little back-and-forth motion will get
it moving again, though.

Daniel how old is the rotor that you have?

I was using a dual antenna setup for the Buffalo and Toronto stations that worked great. Since I am selling the ota stuff I decided to try a rotor 9521a last year Oct at my house.

I noticed that when the weather was below freezing and overcast the rotor would not move. :(( It did not have to rain or snow.

Once it gets around 32'F (0'c) and its sunny it would move again.

The follwoing month in November, I went back on the roof and changed the rotor, figuring it must be defective. Called my distributor and he said he will swap it under warranty.

Same problem, then I email a contact I know at Andrew(Channel Master) to let him know of the problem. He said that he has not come across the problem and has sold thousands. (Yea right)

I said there must be a bad batch or the factory that made them made some changes(cheaper) cause the older rotors that people have they dont freeze up.

I posted this on the dhc board.

Would you know came spring-summer there was no rotor to be found. :) Channel master was redesigned the rotor for better performance.

Improvements:
One the motor is attached by 3 screws instead of 2 for better support, plus the new motor has more torque.

They say the black/rubber seal is better. When I check the rubber seal on mine only 8 months old, it was loose.

For those who have the older one maybe you can put a better weather booth over that seal as if you turn it by hand it moves freely and its not supossed to.

They seems to fill the gears with grease as I can see it once you open where you attach the 3 wires below there is a nut and there grease oozing out. Never seen this on the older ones.

Where you attach the 3 wires its now a push in clip and no longer screwed in.

This is how you can tell the rotors that you are getting is new, by how the 3 wires are being connected.

I changed mine last month as soon as they got the new batch. Will see what happens over the winter, hopefully no more freezing.

I sent back my old one for exchange.

Ps: From looking at the rotor casing, there is no change in appearance it's only when you unscrew and open the lid where you connect the wires.
Post 698 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 13:45
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just so that everyone knows, WNYO is sending a new test signal via a much stronger transmitter, so if you've never got WNYO before, check on 34 and see if you are picking it up.

they are showing some loop of foreign programming right now. When it's been on, the signal is fairly strong, I'm pulling it in at 75% but then I'm in Niagara
Post 699 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 15:11
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From Grand Island, I assume. At what power?
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
Post 700 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 15:15
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i believe they are transmitting at 175kW directional to the south, on the same tower as WUTV.

then again, some supposely said they were going to use a 35kW omni transmiter (WUTV's previous transmitter)

im not sure if there transmitting at full power for their tests, but at the moment, it seems weaker than FOX's old signal
Post 701 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 15:54
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On September 7, 2006 at 13:45, 026163 said...
just so that everyone knows, WNYO is sending a new test
signal via a much stronger transmitter, so if you've never
got WNYO before, check on 34 and see if you are picking
it up.

they are showing some loop of foreign programming right
now. When it's been on, the signal is fairly strong, I'm
pulling it in at 75% but then I'm in Niagara

Yeah I'm pulling it in full Strength..... some Japanese movie is play now(picture look's great)
Post 702 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 17:34
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OK, so it sounds like it's the 175 kw directional from Grand Island. How's that affecting reception for you up north?

I assume that analog still comes from the golf course in Cowlesville. Or will they broadcast that from Grand Island also?
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
OP | Post 703 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 18:36
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I just tried tuning in 34.1... nada. Not a blip. Not even a hint of a signal. I get more from a 28kw channel 98 miles away in Rochester.
OP | Post 704 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 21:54
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Well, a bit later I *did* manage to get a blip on 34.1 - reported at 33%, but it kept jumping down to nil and back up to 27% and one spot at 44%, but the way my HD receiver works you have to do a scan before you can actually "watch" any new channel, and I was just looking at 34 during a break while watching some recorded programming, so I didn't get the chance.

I just tried a few minutes ago to see if I could do a scan but I'm getting constant nothing.
Post 705 made on Thursday September 7, 2006 at 22:15
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Daniel, isn't it you who has the invinsible anntenna system in Toronto?

i know it's probably very devious of me, but it kinda feels nice getting a signal over here that people can't get in Toronto ha ha.

but remember u guys can all get a strong signal from CITY-TV. I have to aim my CM4228 so precisely to recieve a watchable signal from CITY, since they send almost nothing over here to Niagara.

maybe once WNYO is on the air for good, their signal will be stronger.

edit: do be aware that WNYO has been really off and on testing their signal. ie right now, they are off air. So if you get nothing whatsoever, this probably means they temporarily off-air. but then if you ARE getting a signal, but only a very slight one, thats not a good sign.
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