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Post 1,501 made on Tuesday March 25, 2008 at 22:25
rfdude
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OK on WNLO 49.2. Thanks for the tip. Seems the station is not providing picture on 49.1. Seems like an obvious solution, but I've hidden all the duplicate channels in analog or SD quality so looking at 49.2 wasn't obvious to me.

New issue tonight discovered on my Sony 52W3000, (with the latest firmware) when watching a movie on SUN TV (analog 52) on 66.1 OTA. The TV resets constantly. I can't seem to control it with the remote. Picture/sound... no picture/sound... seems to boot up and the cycle continues. Lost my clock setting too. Looking at the Sony diagnostic screen, it doesn't provide a response before the TV seems to reset again. I have to use the channel push buttons to move to another station and get control back. First time I've ever seen this happen with this new set. Could be a lot of reasons including a new setting in the transmission. If you read this in a timely fashion, have a look at SUN TV 66.1 and see if your set is affected.

UPDATE 26/03/2008 RE 66.1: PROBLEM FOUND AT THE TRANSMITTER> PSIP insertion hardware failed = TV can't lock on signal. Issue corrected.

Last edited by rfdude on March 26, 2008 13:14.
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Post 1,502 made on Wednesday March 26, 2008 at 11:48
ontariocraig
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I watched scrubs on ckxt-dt/suntv last night 7pm - 7:30pm I think. It was working fine for me.

Like everyone else, I lost 49.1 a few days ago, but the signal was still OK so I could tune to 49.2 - I got no signal at all on 49 WNYO last night. haven't checked it today, but this channel is usually fairly reliable for me.

How's everyone else with WNYO-DT ?
Post 1,503 made on Wednesday March 26, 2008 at 13:01
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Both 49.1 and 49.2 are coming in at about 45% strength (watchable with the odd breakup)- South Toronto, near High Park, antenna indoors, facing south.
Located in the High Park area of Toronto, north facing view.
Post 1,504 made on Thursday March 27, 2008 at 08:52
ontariocraig
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thx eb25 - I checked thru the tuner on my dvd recorder and wnyo-dt was alive and well. wierd. so I had to a factory reset and rescan on my TV and everything was good again. So now I can watch family guy again :-)
Post 1,505 made on Thursday March 27, 2008 at 13:01
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Does anyone know how well or how many HD channels are broadcastings from the CN tower currently? I live in Niagara Falls, NY and have a Antenna Direct DB2 and can pick up the CBC on 5.1 but no other stations. If there are more broadcasts then I might get an antenna with a higher range. The DB2 I think is rated for 30 miles.
Post 1,506 made on Thursday March 27, 2008 at 20:26
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There are currently 5 channels from Toronto, see [Link: remotecentral.com] for list and transmission power. All are low power, some VERY low power and directional. I cant speak for reception possibilities in Niagara Falls, hopefully someone else closer to you can comment ?

CBLT-DT (5.1) uhf20
CBLTF-DT (25.1) uhf24
CFTO-DT (9.1) uhf40
CKXT-DT (66.1) uhf66 (Theres a repeater in hamilton also - see list)
CITY-DT (57.1) uhf53

There are another 3 channels coming soon, hopefully, but they'll also be low powered.
Post 1,507 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 08:30
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elkniv,

I'm in Sanborn, above the escarpment. Using a CM4228. I don't have it on a rotor, but when I put it up I swung it around and scanned and got several decent locks from our northern neighbors. When I get home from work I'll see if I can find my notes as I wrote down all the stations I locked on to and what I thought the quality was at the time.

If the weather gets decent this weekend I can go up on the roof and swing it around again and have a look, but you should be able to do better than 1 channel.
Panasonic TH42PX60U, Yamaha RX-V667, DirecTV HR24, Sony DVP-NC80V, URC MX-980, PSX-2
Post 1,508 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 09:52
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elkniv, You should do better depending on what's around you. I'm at the opposite end of the county from you, Niagara/Orleans County line, and can get CBLT-DT, 5.1; CFTO-DT, 9.1; CKXT-DT, 66-1 at about 80% signal strength. CBLTF-DT, 25-1 comes in at about 60%. The two OMNI channels, CJMT-DT 44-1 and CFMT-DT 47-1, come in at about 50% when they broadcast which is infrequently right now. I can't get CITY-DT 57-1 nor CTS-DT 35-1 out of Hamilton well enough to lock on.

I use a cheap antenna mounted in the attic purchased off E-Bay, Quantum FX ANT-104. It has a built in booster (28-35 db gain claimed) and rotor but doesn't have a means to tell you where it's pointing when you rotate from the control in your living room.

Last edited by arnold393 on March 28, 2008 09:58.
Post 1,509 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 11:59
CraigOTA
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49.1 update:
Did a scan again yesterday and now 49.1 is back.
probably just antenna not pointed great, combined with low strength in my area

Coverage Maps:
Probably common knowledge, but new to me and I thought was interesting, you can view coverage maps for all the US channels at: www.tvfool.com

for example -WNYO:
[Link: tvfool.com]
Post 1,510 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 21:32
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hey elkniv! I live in Newfane, approximately 10 miles from the lake. I get all Toronto stations, 5.1 CBC, 9.1 CTV, 57.1 CITY, 66.1 SUN, and the OMNI's when they are up. All stations except CITY come in very strong. CITY I get at about 50% but am able to watch it problem free in normal weather (rain and snow cause problems). I have an antennacraft u8000 with a winegard preamp and am aimed directly at the CN tower. Buffalo and Grand Island are recieved fairly well through the back and sides of antenna. If I were you, I'd scrap the DB2 and go with with CM4228 or the antennacraft u8000.
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Post 1,511 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 10:42
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On March 28, 2008 at 21:32, farlz00 said...
hey elkniv! I live in Newfane, approximately 10 miles
from the lake. I get all Toronto stations, 5.1 CBC, 9.1
CTV, 57.1 CITY, 66.1 SUN, and the OMNI's when they are
up. All stations except CITY come in very strong. CITY
I get at about 50% but am able to watch it problem free
in normal weather (rain and snow cause problems). I have
an antennacraft u8000 with a winegard preamp and am aimed
directly at the CN tower. Buffalo and Grand Island are
recieved fairly well through the back and sides of antenna.
If I were you, I'd scrap the DB2 and go with with CM4228
or the antennacraft u8000.

I’m about 15 miles west of you in the town of Porter (same distance to the lake) with a rotor you should be able to receive Rochester also.

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Post 1,512 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 18:50
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Hi,

It looks like 65-1 Global CIII is broadcasting a test pattern today.

I guess the CRTC's warning about the last extension was taken seriously.

Cheers
Victor
Post 1,513 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 19:12
Bruce H.Campbell
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On March 28, 2008 at 21:32, farlz00 said...
hey elkniv! I live in Newfane, approximately 10 miles
from the lake. I get all Toronto stations, 5.1 CBC, 9.1
CTV, 57.1 CITY, 66.1 SUN, and the OMNI's when they are
up. All stations except CITY come in very strong. CITY
I get at about 50% but am able to watch it problem free

You lucky dog! 5.1(UHF20)CBC is the only TO station I get reliably,as for 49(uhf34) I get both subchannels at 75% in most weather. Click on the profile button to see my location.
Over the past year I've touted my use of HTPCs and the MyHD,MDP-130 PCI card but over the last bit I found out there isn't going to be a MDP-140 or other successor. In that case I've considered a posting by a trusted source over at the AVS Forum in the MDP main thread by TPetersen, if anyone wants an URL to there, let me know. I still love what the MDP does to my DVDs(upconvert NTSC) using products like AnyDVD,DVDFab or DVD43 to decrypt CSS. My next project will probably be building a HTPC with both a MDP-130 (either buy another or pull one of the the others out) and combine with the Divco Fusion, should offer more flexibility. Once I get my tax refund.
Here is the transplanted post that got me thinking(from Last Dec.):


The MDP-130 does a better job for some folks than the 120 at pulling in stations, but both cards are now long of tooth and outshined by newer tuners (such as the one in your DTV). Amongst others, the DViCo FusionHDTV 5 products have newer chips and can pull in stations much better than the older cards. One reason that I mention Fusion is that both that and MyHD are supported by the Cliff Watson EPG scheduling program, so that you can add a Fusion tuner to your PC and then use both tuners, as well as using the MyHD for file playback while the Fusion is recording. MyHD's hw MPEG-2 decoding still is a class leader for playing HDTV transport streams, whether live or recorded.

Basically, there are quite a few choices now that vary mainly in software support and all that have newer tuner/demodulator hardware outperform the old chips in OTA reception.

What the hell, for the curious, here is the URL to the main index:

[Link: avsforum.com]

Last edited by Bruce H.Campbell on April 1, 2008 11:30.
Post 1,514 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 19:41
Bruce H.Campbell
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On March 31, 2008 at 18:50, vabiro said...
Hi,

It looks like 65-1 Global CIII is broadcasting a test
pattern today.

I guess the CRTC's warning about the last extension was
taken seriously.

Cheers
Victor

What's the power level? I tried tuning for it with no luck.
Post 1,515 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 20:40
vabiro
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On March 31, 2008 at 19:41, Bruce H.Campbell said...
What's the power level? I tried tuning for it with no
luck.

It was a nice solid 86% with 100% symbol. That was at about 3PM today, but I just tried and I was getting nothing.

It looks like they are testing, but not full time.

Victor
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